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Food and fasting

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Food and fasting


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You go girl. It just occurred to me that fast food is something of an oxymoron.

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Well, good on ya. I hope your body soon reaches the enlightened state your soul already has. heh

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Fasting isn't healthy, Tal. All the credible science (and common sense) says it's stupid. You need to exercise more.

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Hey, Tal, here's a book about fasting that lanin read many years ago and recommended to me at the time.

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And all that religious jargon only serves to prove my point. Show me some science, fatso.

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And all that religious jargon only serves to prove my point. Show me some science, fatso.


And how 'bout some science from you, faggot?

Depending on whether or not you believe Andrew Weil, fasting is healthy for short periods of time. Also, there is a difference between a healthy fast and anorexia. Your body has nutritional needs every day, and those have to be met.

Exercise alone is not the answer. Really, it's about replacing bad habits with good ones, as Tal is doing. Tal doesn't sound like a super-active guy so he shouldn't need as many calories as someone who is.

plum needs to substitute his bad habit of posting with a good habit like suicide.

Good luck Tal.

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Fasting isn't healthy, Tal. All the credible science (and common sense) says it's stupid. You need to exercise more.


All the credible science (and common sense) says that if your brain was placed on the edge of a razor blade, it would look like a BB sitting in the middle of the New Jersey Turnpike.

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is this the thread where fat people give other fat people advice on how to stay fit?

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Your body needs nutrition and it won't function properly with just the vitamins. It needs to keep active as well. When you fast, your body goes into starvation mode (ketosis) and basically starts eating itself. Drinking lots of sugary juice and not eating protein causes it to break down your muscles for fuel, and any muscle lost will be gained back as fat. This is because the body is preparing for the next starvation. Most of the weight lost is actually water weight (which you will put right back on).

Toxins get released into the bloodstream as the fat desposits they are stored in are used up. If these toxins are not removed from the system, reabsorption will occur and the toxins could move to a place where they will do more damage than they did in the one before.

The "spiritual" euphoria comes from the body not functioning properly as it breaks down proteins in vital organs such as the heart and kidneys. Hair, nails, skin, teeth, and every other part of the body starts decaying. That's not cleansing; it's simply unhealthy.

Metabolic Effects of Starvation

http://surgery.mc.duke.edu/nutritio...metabolism.html

Those guys like the one that Mug posted are a dime a dozen on the net. They're all New Age quacks who just want to sell books. Most have little if no nutrition education.

http://www.quackwatch.org/search/we...1&query=fasting

Try to find a scientific article supporting fasts as credible as the one I posted. You won't.

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Also, there is a difference between a healthy fast and anorexia.


There is no healthy fast. There are only good diets and bad ones, as you noted yourself:

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Your body has nutritional needs every day, and those have to be met....Really, it's about replacing bad habits with good ones

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There is no healthy fast. There are only good diets and bad ones, as you noted yourself:


Not all fasts mean going completely without food. Some are just solids fasts. Some are wheat fasts. And the list goes on.

But keep on arguing semantics. It's what makes you the boring prick that you are.

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