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Gunstar_Hobo
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MMO NO YOU DIDN'T part II

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MMO NO YOU DIDN'T part II

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It's kind of interesting to see how they view our invasion of their game. I tend to side with them when they say they want separate servers for JP, NA/EU, and mixed. One of the things I hated when I played was that I couldn't talk to 99% of the players because I couldn't speak the language, and I really didn't care for the translator. Most of the time when I tried talking to players to get help it was just a flood of "I don't speak English" or horribly broken English that made understanding the player virtually impossible.

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It's kind of interesting to see how they view our invasion of their game. I tend to side with them when they say they want separate servers for JP, NA/EU, and mixed.

I think when it was originally released in Japan there was never any mention to the Japanese players that servers would be mixed.

Also really funny that the reason they don't like being /checked in the game is because the game says they're being stared at intently. The polite thing to do is to ask them first. Oh noes someone is looking at my equip and reading my bazaar comment.

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One of the things I hated when I played was that I couldn't talk to 99% of the players because I couldn't speak the language, and I really didn't care for the translator.

What kind of thing would you want to say that isn't in the translator? Type the first few letters of any kind of game term or question you can think of and hit tab and all the possibilities come up. It's not rocket surgery.

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Most of the time when I tried talking to players to get help it was just a flood of "I don't speak English" or horribly broken English that made understanding the player virtually impossible.

What server were you playing on that 99% didn't speak English? I've been on a few and unless you play in the middle of the night to early morning Japanese players are the minority online. Even then you'd have a hard time not finding North Americans or other English speakers in every zone. Not to mention you can easily search everyone on the server and it says what languages they speak.

I like getting invites at 5am to all JP parties because I know THEY MEAN BUSINESS.

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so where do they level up? does sucking their dick give you more exp?

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you are under the false impression that JP are the end all and be all.
they use the person just like anyone else.
they'll use a whm or blm. no shit

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Originally posted by Gunstar_Hobo
I think when it was originally released in Japan there was never any mention to the Japanese players that servers would be mixed.

Also really funny that the reason they don't like being /checked in the game is because the game says they're being stared at intently. The polite thing to do is to ask them first. Oh noes someone is looking at my equip and reading my bazaar comment.

I didn't get their hate of being checked until I saw in that article that it has a lot to do with the message displayed. I think it's a pretty silly thing for them to get their knickers in a wad about, but different cultures and shit.

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What kind of thing would you want to say that isn't in the translator? Type the first few letters of any kind of game term or question you can think of and hit tab and all the possibilities come up. It's not rocket surgery.

It was more about generally being able to communicate with people effectively, and the Japanese players and I both agree on this. If real communication with your party could be boiled down to just a handful of phrases in a translator it wouldn't be that much of a problem. One of the things I liked about World of Warcraft was that the servers were segregated by location and language. I don't think mixed language servers are necessarily bad, but I do think it puts some undue hardships on the players when they slam headfirst into the language/culture barrier.

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What server were you playing on that 99% didn't speak English? I've been on a few and unless you play in the middle of the night to early morning Japanese players are the minority online. Even then you'd have a hard time not finding North Americans or other English speakers in every zone. Not to mention you can easily search everyone on the server and it says what languages they speak.

Fuck if I can remember what server I played on. I just took whatever server it recommended. I think I was still working second shift at the time I bought FFXI, and I would have been playing like midnight to 3:00 or 4:00 AM. I do remember that it was hard to find anyone that spoke English, and the few I did find were very unhelpful. The most helpful person I ever ran into was a GM that respawned me after I fell through the ground in some town.

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