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JANUARY 02, 20:54 EST

N.H. Lawmaker Advocates Killing Cops

By MIKE RECHT
Associated Press Writer

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A newly elected Republican state lawmaker has enraged his constituents, party leaders and police by saying he favors killing police officers when they cross the line. One police chief calls him ``a hate-mongering lunatic.''

Tom Alciere, 41, won a seat in the New Hampshire House on his fourth try after a low-key campaign last fall. It wasn't until Sunday that his constituents in Nashua learned of his anti-police views.

Alciere told the Valley News of Lebanon that he loves it when someone kills a police officer: ``It's unfortunate that cops do make it necessary (to kill them) when they're waging a war on drugs, and I view cops as enemy officers.'' He said he is ``too chicken'' to do it himself.

He acknowledges posting his views at Internet chat sites for months, including this 1999 comment: ``Nobody will ever be safe until the last cop is dead.''

State GOP Chairman Steve Duprey said Alciere should renounce his views or resign. But Alciere stood his ground.

``There's no way I'm going to resign,'' he said Tuesday.

Alciere, a married father of one who inspects circuit boards at a factory, said he was arrested for ``petty stuff'' years ago but never went to jail and has no criminal record. He said his anti-police comments are the ``harmless rantings of a private citizen'' that won't influence his legislative work.

New Hampshire has no procedure for recalling state representatives, and legislators said they expect Alciere to serve.

``As despicable as the ideas are, the complaints against him are for his ideas,'' said Peter Burling, the House Democratic leader.

With 400 members, the New Hampshire House is the largest state legislative body in the country and many campaigns don't get much media attention. Alciere admits he didn't advertise his views during his campaign, but denies misleading anyone.

``Nobody asked,'' he said. ``For state representative, you don't have to tell where you stand on the issues.''

He said when police cross the line, citizens have the right to use force to defend themselves: ``Whatever is necessary is necessary. It sounds kind of harsh.''

He is taking plenty of heat. Newmarket police Chief Rodney Collins called Alciere ``a hate-mongering lunatic,'' and Gov. Jeanne Shaheen is among state leaders to denounce him.

Nashua Deputy Police Chief Timothy Hefferan said supervisors warn officers to be careful if they get a call to Alciere's apartment building. He said police usually stay out of politics, but ``I think we'll have to revisit that policy just to enlighten people.''

Alciere's views got some publicity when he wrote letters to newspapers.

In 1997, three days after Carl Drega killed two state troopers, a part-time judge and a newspaper editor in Colebrook, Alciere sent a letter saying that except for the editor, Drega was ``an otherwise innocent cop-killer taking out enemy officers in battle.''

The letter was never published, but became part of the investigation.

A short time later, Epsom police officer Jeremy Charron was murdered. Alciere defended Charron's killer, Gordon Perry, because he said Charron had no right to ask Perry and a companion for identification while they slept in their car.

Alciere said his anger stems from reading and watching television about police misconduct, and his belief that many of the laws the police enforce are unjust.

But during his campaign, he promised simply to oppose any bills that infringe on freedom, and defeated a Democratic incumbent by 55 votes. In his previous runs for the seat, Alciere ran twice as a Libertarian and once as a Democrat.

After the election, Alciere went online and said he was elected by a ``bunch of fat, stupid, ugly old ladies that watch soap operas, play bingo, read tabloids and don't know the metric system.''

``The same lamebrains who vote for politicians who are WRONG finally voted for one who is RIGHT,'' he wrote.


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I wonder if he posts here at the Asylum???

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The pic don't werk......

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I wonder if he posts here at the Asylum???



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Thanks, Devilmoon. That has got to be one of the most incredibly insane things I've ever read in my life. That fella makes David Duke look like a Boy Scout. Amen.

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It ain't me!





Nashua is only ten minutes from me. Muahahaha, it's me. ME ME ME!! DIE COPS DIE!!

(The preceding was a joke. I live 15 minutes from Nashua.)

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(The preceding was a joke. I live 15 minutes from Nashua.)




HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

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You crazy Americans haha

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[BDavid Duke[/B]



yeah, he sucks.

*pretends he doesn't live in louisiana*


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Jesus!

I did a Google search on this guy to find a photo to replace the AP one that I linked that went bad after a while.

Look at this

High school dating site?

"Note: I try not to deal with the cops more than I have to, but if anything should happen to any student after some creep uses this site, that's where I'd have to draw the line and give the cops whatever evidence my hard drive could offer. I really don't want that to happen, (and I'll bet they really wouldn't look forward to requesting my help, either) so please follow the precautions found on the "How To Use This Site" page, and use your head.
This site is maintained by Tom Alciere of 46 Pine Street in Nashua. "

From this page's 1998 archive:

"Tom Alciere wants to place a classified ad in our newspaper looking for Cuban girlfriends for men from the United States. Sorry, Tom, we don't offer that kind of service."

From this page:

"Tom Alciere - 10/20/99 19:52:29
My URL:http://www.una-novia.com/thefeds.html
My Email:tomalciere@netway.com
Favorite Killer: cop-killers
Which do you prefer, Serial or Mass murder?: cop-killers that don't hurt any humans
will you visit this page again?: maybe

Comments:
A murder & suicide happened here in Nashua NH. Read about it at http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news...019x-killer.htm The name of the suicidal murderer Liam Youens may ring a bell. He signed this guest book in February. What he did was very wrong, though. He killed something that wasn't a cop."

Doesn't this prove that anyone can get elected?

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quote:
Originally posted by Chantrea:
Nashua is only ten minutes from me. Muahahaha, it's me. ME ME ME!! DIE COPS DIE!!

(The preceding was a joke. I live 15 minutes from Nashua.)


You're already being investigated.



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he also owns: http://www.SheWantsIt.net http://www.SheWantsItBad.net http://www.HeWantsIt.net http://www.HeWantsItBad.net

fucking freak

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Yup, people from NH are complete fucking whack jobs.

His voice in the legislator is minimal to say the least and I dont see a second term in the future. Now that he has become a public official and advocated these things, I would imagine he will be watched pretty closely.

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Ripped off from www.shewantsitbad.net
Interesting bits in BOLD.

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Picture a lady who is having no luck finding a date. This does not mean she is doing anything wrong. It's just that the guys aren't where she goes. Days drag into weeks and months.

Now picture that same lady living on a planet where radio stations are dedicated to the mission of blaring out musical renditions telling, in full glorious detail, how sweet it is to have a mate. One song after another, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 366 days in a leap year, thousands of radio stations, all over the world. Add a subliminal touch, such as a drum beat calculated to mimic a pounding heart, and you get the idea.

Now let's say this lady phones one of those radio stations and, lo and behold, she is caller number 8, with the correct answer. She wins a pair of concert tickets. She tells a new temp at the office of her good fortune, requesting the honour of his company, and he yells nasty things at her.

Now picture this lady on the 366th day of continuous songs telling how sweet it is to have a mate. It is 23:59:53 as she stands under an electronic billboard displaying a figure 7. She ought to be eagerly anticipating the climax of the nightlong celebration, but to her, that chronometer, which the technicians have so carefully synchronized against an atomic clock, represents the dwindling number of seconds remaining in yet another year. It's New Year's Eve at seven seconds to midnight, and all she can think about is how she doesn't have a date like "everybody" else. And one thing is certain, time will march on.

It is now T zero, the stroke of midnight, U.S. Naval Observatory time, and all these thousands of people will fulfill the purpose for which they have assembled upon the city square. With all the mathematical precision of rocket scientists launching the Space Shuttle, they simultaneously explode in one intense, spectacular wave of euphoria, and immediately begin cuddling, kissing, everywhere she turns, people are gleefully hugging and even dancing in the streets. It is "a time to embrace" (Ecclesiastes 3:5). So close, but so far away.

She starts to ponder, if she were to get into her motorcar and speed 150 kilometers per hour into a bridge abutment, who would care? Everybody is too busy celebrating to give a damn. And she realizes that nobody would care, except for a small handful of municipal employees, and the only reason even they would care...

...is because they would have to clean up the mess!

The government's "solution" to despair is to dispatch the dreaded men in the white suits. They won't take her away, kicking and screaming. Of course not! First they'll put her in restraints, so she can't kick or scream. What better way to brighten up her day and make her glad to be alive, than to lock her up in a mental institution? That is pathetic.

There is a better way. Most likely, she is not the only one on the city square who feels that way. Most likely, somewhere in that crowd, there's a guy whose girlfriend just ditched him, a guy her age, who would be willing to accept her surplus affection gladly, if only the social barriers to their making it happen could be eliminated.

We think the antidepressants that say "Shake Well Before Opening" can't possibly work as well as the kind that say, "Let's go see a movie."

First of all, if you're a teenaged choir girl, unimpressed with the guys you meet at the dances at the church hall, and you're looking for a guy your age to go to the movies and kiss goodnight, you're in the wrong place. Try She Wants It. In that case, "it" may just be good, healthy affection and company.

This page is for the ladies who aren't so picky, that is, those who are more tolerant of the perceived shortcomings of their prospective dates. Some of them may be wallowing in the depths of despair. Some of them may even be so desperate they'll settle for a smoker. And that's really scraping the bottom of the barrel. And, yes, it is only for ladies who are looking for a guy.

[This guy is seriously messed up. Am I the only one that sees subliminal messages in that text?]

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quote:
Originally posted by Chantrea:
Nashua is only ten minutes from me. Muahahaha, it's me. ME ME ME!! DIE COPS DIE!!

(The preceding was a joke. I live 15 minutes from Nashua.)





I used to live in Nashua a few years ago. Pretty good city to live in. In fact, I believe is was voted "best city to raise a family" a few years ago.

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I used to live in Nashua a few years ago. Pretty good city to live in. In fact, I believe is was voted "best city to raise a family" a few years ago.



I remember this too. It's one of those wholesome "all-American" towns. And this story is really bizarre!

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I remember this too. It's one of those wholesome "all-American" towns. And this story is really bizarre!



Is Nashua near the Indian on the Mountain? What's that called again? There's an indian's face on a mountain. It's not man-made. It just looks like an indian. About 10 years ago, I went with my parents up there for a vacation. I was a little kid and I was very impressed by that sight. Is that near Nashua?

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's been about five years since I was last in Nashua.

GFY, you're thinking of the "Old Man in the Mountain," which I believe is pretty far up in northern New Hampshire. Nashua's fairly close to the southern border with Massachusetts.

And FWIW: "The Old Man in the Mountain" is on the new New Hampshire quarter.

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Thank you, Agoust! That's it! The Old Man in the Mountain!

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Agoust is right on the money. So to speak.

Their is another peak in NH that is an Indian head, not the Old Man. I cant think of it at the moment. I am too tired to look it up.

You can ski the mountain that has the "Old Man" on it BTW. I think its Cannon Mountain. Again, I would have to look it up.

Ive lived every year of my life in this state and I am shocked at how much Ive forgotten. My only defence is that I live on the coast, which is only about 7 miles long and I like the beaches more. I havent been up to the White Mountains in years.

I should correct that I suppose.

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Dead_Inside: Then I WAS right!! There is an Indian, isn't there??? It's not an old man that I'm thinking about after all! I KNEW I SAW AN INDIAN ON A MOUNTAIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHEN I WAS KID!

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You could be right GFY, Im too tired. Ill look it up tommorrow.

I remember it too. I think. *fuzz*

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Never heard of New Hampshire's Indian mountain, but the Old Man is pretty famous--though I must admit I was pretty under-impressed the first time I saw him.

You're not in Portsmouth, are you Dead-Inside? That's a cool town.

Now out in South Dakota, reasonably close to Mt. Rushmore, some guy's been carving Crazy Horse into a mountainside for years. I was in a film shot reasonably close to there some years ago. I think the artist was predicting his completion date as 2010 or something. But the scale far dwarfed Rushmore.

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