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From today's (2/19/01) New York Times:

The icecap atop Mount Kilimanjaro, which for thousands of years has floated like a cool beacon over the shimmering plain of Tanzania, is retreating at such a pace that it will disappear in less than 15 years, according to new studies.

The vanishing of the seemingly perpetual snows of Kilimanjaro that inspired Ernest Hemingway, echoed by similar trends on ice-capped peaks from Peru to Tibet, is one of the clearest signs that a global warming trend in the last 50 years may have exceeded typical climate shifts and is at least partly caused by gases released by human activities, a variety of scientists say.

Measurements taken over the last year on Kilimanjaro show that its glaciers are not only retreating but also rapidly thinning, with one spot having lost a yard of thickness since last February, said Dr. Lonnie G. Thompson, a senior research scientist at the Byrd Polar Research Center of Ohio State University.

Altogether, he said, the mountain has lost 82 percent of the icecap it had when it was first carefully surveyed, in 1912.

Given that the retreat started a century ago, Dr. Thompson said, it is likely that some natural changes were affecting the glacier before it felt any effect from the large, recent rise in carbon dioxide and other heat- trapping greenhouse gases from smokestacks and tailpipes. And, he noted, glaciers have grown and retreated in pulses for tens of thousands of years.

But the pace of change measured now goes beyond anything in recent centuries.

"There may be a natural part of it, but there's something else being superimposed on top of it," Dr. Thompson said. "And it matches so many other lines of evidence of warming. Whether you're talking about bore- hole temperatures, shrinking Arctic sea ice, or glaciers, they're telling the same story."

Dr. Thompson presented the fresh data yesterday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in San Francisco.

Other recent reports of changes under way in the natural world, like gaps in sea ice at the North Pole or shifts in animal populations, can still be ascribed to other factors, many scientists say, but many add that having such a rapid erosion of glaciers in so many places is harder to explain except by global warming.

The retreat of mountain glaciers has been seen from Montana to Mount Everest to the Swiss Alps. In the Alps, scientists have estimated that by 2025 glaciers will have lost 90 percent of the volume of ice that was there a century ago. (Only Scandinavia seems to be bucking the trend, apparently because shifting storm tracks in Europe are dumping more snow there.)

But the melting is generally quickest in and near the tropics, Dr. Thompson said, with some ancient glaciers in the Andes — and the ice on Kilimanjaro — melting fastest of all.

Separate studies of air temperature in the tropics, made using high- flying balloons, have shown a steady rise of about 15 feet a year in the altitude at which air routinely stays below the freezing point. Dr. Thompson said that other changes could also be contributing to the glacial shrinkage, but the rising warm zone is probably the biggest influence.

Trying to stay ahead of the widespread melting, Dr. Thompson and a team of scientists have been hurriedly traveling around the tropics to extract cores of ice from a variety of glaciers containing a record of thousands of years of climate shifts. The data may help predict future trends.

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I thought it was the cows in the mid-west USA that were responsible for global warming. they eat grass and then fart methane gas, which has been attributed to major ozone depletion.
steak sauce is our only salvation.


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I fully support global warming.

yeah, yeah...we may make the Earth inhabitable, but can anyone remember the last time they had to wake up early in the morning and scrape leopards, tree frogs and other assorted rainforest fauna off your windshield?

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but can anyone remember the last time they had to wake up early in the morning and scrape leopards, tree frogs and other assorted rainforest fauna off your windshield?


hehehehe
That would be cool.

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Yeah i'd rather scrape treefrogs than ice. Just call me bwana and give me a pith helmet.

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Good Gravy!

I just bought new boots for my snowboard. Will I be able to carve powder in this warm new world?!

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The cool thing about global warming is that we are young enough that we get to see the end of the world as we know it.

Start sharpening your Rambo knives, folks!

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quote:
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but can anyone remember the last time they had to wake up early in the morning and scrape leopards, tree frogs and other assorted rainforest fauna off your windshield?


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