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VKL
Running with a Hatchet

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Post The Idea of Censorship

I just want to say right off the bat that this is not totally about Censorship on The Asylum, but I will speak a bit about it later.

The Dictonary defines censorship as "the institution or practice of censoring" ok, no help there. So let us look at censor "A person empowered to suppress publications or excise any matter in them thought to be immoral, seditious or otherwise undesirable". Ok that is only one definition out of a few, but let's go with that. What I find amusing about this is the fact that "immoral, seditious or otherwise undesirable" material vares from person to person. What I find underirable, another person may not, and vise versa. What brought this all about was this. I sat down and caught the end of a movie called "Dirty Pictures". In this movie a man who ran an art gallery had an exibition of photos by a man who was known to have pictures some would concider lewd and sexual. Some of the pictures were of nude children. Some people found this offensive and a lawsuit follwed. The man who ran the art gallery won in the end, but what happened next what a man who talked about "fighting the fight" and "doing what was right" what he was speaking of was the "moral degridation" of america. Now I see no true moral degridation. What I see is products that would be concidered lewd by some, becomming more accesible to everyone. It seem that there are certian groups who believe that everyone should share the opinions they have, and like it. Well the fact of the matter is, no one can be right. In my opinion, if you do not like what you see on TV, turn the channel. If you do not like what you hear on the radio, turn the station. If you do not like certian things you see in movies, don't watch them. So on and so forth. Well then there is the fact that children are getting access to these same things. Well maybe parents should control the things that thier children watch, and if the children get them from friends, well maybe they should just accept the fact that their children are going to be exposed to it sooner or later. It is near impossible to keep them away from all those things they may concider lewd, immoral, too violent, whatever it may be. Now some censorship can be a good thing. Take for instance here at The Asylum. There has been some talk lately about cesorship here. I think that the censorship that goes on here is a good thing. The admins of this site are simply trying to protect themselves. They do not want to get in trouble for things that go on here, or lose sponsorship for them. Totally understandable I think. When it comes to things like movies, televison, and music. They have ratings and parental advisory stickers for a reason. For the parents to do what they were put in charge of doing when they had children, being parents. Video games, music, movies, and so on should not be banned for what they are. There are many out there who enjoy what others concider wrong. As I said, just don't watch/play/listen to whatever you find wrong, and move on. Do not by any means put the government in charge of what we can see or listen to. That will just cause a whole mess of problems no one is ready to deal with. We should all be free to choose what we see and do. Don't let our government be the national parents of america.


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slight
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Last night I dreamt of a small grey kitten with some strange disease which meant it had to be killed. It was up to me to cut it's little throat, although unfortunately the serrated knife I had to use was not sharp. I smelt the damp breath of its cough when the dark blood dripped into its lungs, I watched the look of panic in its eyes, while clumsily fumbling to find the notch between vertebrae so i could get the head completely off. It was only then, as I woke from this scene, that I thought maybe bludgeoning it to death would have been more humane.
Now all this is well and good, but what disturbs me is I woke up with a huge erection that wouldn't go down.

If you could consciously censor your own dreams, would you?

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Nutrimentia
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VKL, you covered a bunch of bases here. I don't have time to hit on them all right now, but i agree with you about people forcing their morality on others.

As for censorship at the Asylum, any "censoring" that goes on isn't for the sake of the admins, it is for everyone's benefit. The Asylum doesn't censor, but there are rules to follow. You break those rules (i.e. warez of child porn), you get your posts pulled. If it was really censorship, there wouldn't be rules outline the "censoring" policies.

Notice also that there is plenty of talk by those who got "censored." If they truly were censored, the admins would try their damndest to keep the whole issue under wraps.

I realize that this isn't necessarily your position, VKL. I'm not arguing at you. Just calling it like I see it at this moment.

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I basically ******** agree with just about all of what I **** here. My ********* is that I just ******** got up and have not had any ********** coffee yet.
********* to the ******


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VKL
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quote:
Originally posted by Nutrimentia:

As for censorship at the Asylum, any "censoring" that goes on isn't for the sake of the admins, it is for everyone's benefit. The Asylum doesn't censor, but there are rules to follow. You break those rules (i.e. warez of child porn), you get your posts pulled. If it was really censorship, there wouldn't be rules outline the "censoring" policies.



Well it is censoring. They censor items they deem inappropriate. Which I will say again I DON'T ARGUE WITH! Sense there are no written rules that I know of. How can one break the rules?


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PityKitty
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quote:
Originally posted by slight:
Now all this is well and good, but what disturbs me is I woke up with a huge erection that wouldn't go down.

*blinkblink*
I like to think that you had a fantastic sex dream in the final seconds that you don't remember before you woke up.
That's what I like to think.



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HELL
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quote:
Originally posted by slight:
Last night I dreamt of a small grey kitten with some strange disease which meant it had to be killed. It was up to me to cut it's little throat, although unfortunately the serrated knife I had to use was not sharp. I smelt the damp breath of its cough when the dark blood dripped into its lungs, I watched the look of panic in its eyes, while clumsily fumbling to find the notch between vertebrae so i could get the head completely off. It was only then, as I woke from this scene, that I thought maybe bludgeoning it to death would have been more humane.



I have dreams like this often only I dont get an erection, it upsets me endlessly and makes me angry that I could dream such things.

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quote:
Originally posted by wonderaz:
I basically ******** agree with just about all of what I **** here. My ********* is that I just ******** got up and have not had any ********** coffee yet.
********* to the ******




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*pant*
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA


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Freelance
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quote:
Originally posted by VKL:
Well it is censoring. They censor items they deem inappropriate. Which I will say again I DON'T ARGUE WITH! Sense there are no written rules that I know of. How can one break the rules?


6. Are there any rules?

Not in the traditional sense. There are no written rules to etiquette as of yet. But please be advised that some things are considered a no-no, and will be met with the full force of the moderation commitee. First, there is NO pedophile porn posted or traded here. Not only will you be kicked out, we'll dig up some hackers and eat your shit alive. Second, we will not tolerate the posting of true names and addresses without the permission of the person stated. This is not an arena for revenge, and there is no one here to do your dirty work for you. Third, we are not very fond of spammers or scrollers. Repeated postings of anything that is done just to fill a page or the forum index page is frowned upon and could be dealt with in a very unpleasant fashion. Ask around about the last putz that tried spam/scrolling the forum. He was not very happy with our reaction. Other behaviors that are looked down upon are included in the stupid shit that newbies do section of the FAQ. If you value your life, please read it before posting.
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Swiped from the Forum FAQ

(main page, About)

EDIT: You guys should actually update that, about the policy on warez trading.

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Thanks Freelance, and there's also this. Aside from not doing the stupid shit described above in the FAQ, it's really pretty simple. Keep it legal.

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Princess_Chelle
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i copied this from the link you posted Master G, and from the looks of it, we are ALL in BIG BIG trouble!
i cant think of one person who hasnt broken these rules!!!!

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a) Transmit any message, information, data, text, software or images, or other content ("Material") that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, obscene, libelous, or otherwise objectionable that may invade another's right of privacy or publicity;


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quote:
Originally posted by Princess_Chelle:
i copied this from the link you posted Master G, and from the looks of it, we are ALL in BIG BIG trouble!
i cant think of one person who hasnt broken these rules!!!!

In connection with your use of the Site, you agree you will not
a) Transmit any message, information, data, text, software or images, or other content ("Material") that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, obscene, libelous, or otherwise objectionable that may invade another's right of privacy or publicity;




That is RIGHT!!! Now, every damn one of you... GO TO YOUR ROOM!!! I will deal with you all one at a time.



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Princess_Chelle
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quote:
Originally posted by wonderaz:
quote:
Originally posted by Princess_Chelle:
i copied this from the link you posted Master G, and from the looks of it, we are ALL in BIG BIG trouble!
i cant think of one person who hasnt broken these rules!!!!

In connection with your use of the Site, you agree you will not
a) Transmit any message, information, data, text, software or images, or other content ("Material") that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, obscene, libelous, or otherwise objectionable that may invade another's right of privacy or publicity;




That is RIGHT!!! Now, every damn one of you... GO TO YOUR ROOM!!! I will deal with you all one at a time.




ohh stop it wonder, you know how excited i get when you get all bossy!




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VKL
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Hey now! I was not trying to start an argument about the rules. I agreed with what ya'll do. I have no problems with that! So there are rules. I did say there are no rules that *I* knew of.


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