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Science? read (spontaneous human combustion)

On July 2nd 1951 remains were found of a 67 year old widower named Mary Reeser. Her burnt smouldering remains were found by her Neighbor and some house painters. She had been sitting in an easy chair when the incident happened. Her left foot still wearing a slipper remained intact and only the corner of the room and the chair she was sitting in had been burnt. Firemen, police and pathologists examined Mrs. Reeser's remains and also found her liver which was fused to a lump of vertebrae and her skull which had been shrunk to the size of a baseball by the unusually intense heat. The the walls of the apartment were covered with a greasy substance, plastic switches had melted along with two candles which the wicks had been left unburnt. There was only a small circular burn area which encompassed the remains of Mrs. Reeser and her chair. For such a cremation experts say that a temperature of 2500 degrees is necessary. A cigarette accidently dropped whilst asleep would never of caused such heat. The true cause of the burning death of Mrs. Reeser is still unknown. She is the most famous case of Spontaneous Human Combustion.

Spontaneous Human Combustion is a phenomenon where a living person suddenly bursts into flames for no apparent reason. The first reported case was thought to have been in 1763. A Frenchman named Jonas Dupont published a collection of Spontaneous Human Combustion cases. The belief in SHC continued on well into the 1800's, Charles Dickens used SHC in his novel "Bleak House" to kill off a character. It was generally believed in the 1800's that SHC was caused by alcoholism. They believed that the accumulation of alcohol in the body tissues would dramatically increase the combustibility of the body. It was also thought that the body metabolized alcohol to produce hydrogen and other inflammable gases which were then stored in the body tissues. A spark produced by the body's own electricity would then ignite the body. However as more knowledge of the metabolism of the body was discovered this theory was soon dismissed as they discovered that you would die of alcoholic poisoning before you would get to the stage of being saturated with alcohol.The public interest in SHC lost all it's appeal until 1951 when the Reeser case became public knowledge.

The following facts are common to all SHC cases

Eighty percent of the victims are female

Most of the victims were overweight and/or alcoholics

The body is very badly burned, but the room the body was found in is pretty much intact except for a fine layer of soot

A yellow, foul smelling oil is usually surrounding the body

The torso, including the chest, abdomen and hips tend to be totally consumed, sparing portions of the extremities and the head - the clothing can also be intact

The victim was always on their own - no shouts or screams could ever be heard

The victim had usually been drinking heavily prior to the death.



October 1938
Maybelle Andrews was with her boyfriend dancing at a nightclub. Suddenly flames erupted from her back, chest and shoulders. Her boyfriend was severely burned trying to put the flames out. He said that at the time there were no other flames in the room anywhere and that they had come from Maybelle herself. Maybelle died of her injuries on the way to hospital

January 31st, 1959
Jack Larber who was a 72 year old patient at the Laguna Honda Home in San Francisco had his clothing catch fire a few minutes after being fed. His attendant was out of the room at the time it happened but attempted to put out the fire when returning back into the room. Mr. Larber died of 3rd degree burns on February 2nd 1959. No explanation was found for the fire - Mr Larber was a non-smoker.

December, 1959
An autoworker by the name of Billy Peterson was found dead in the front seat of his car in Pontiac, Michigan. At first it appeared that Peterson had attempted suicide for the exhaust pipe had been bent to lead into the car's front seat. However Peterson's body had third-degree burns on his back, legs and arms, his flesh was severely burnt but neither his clothing or the front seat were damaged. It was also noted that hairs on the charred portions of the body were not even singed. On the death certificate the cause was noted as carbon monoxide poisoning but the burns were ignored

December 1966
92 year old Dr. Joh Irving Bentley was last seen alive on the evening of December 4th, 1966 by friends visiting to say goodnight at about 9.00pm. The following morning Mr. Gosnell, a meter reader let himself into Mr Bentley's house to go to the basement to check the meter. Mr Gosnell had permission to enter Mr. Bentley's house because Mr Bentley had limited mobility and could only move about with the help of a walker. Once in the basement Mr Gosnell could smell a strange smell and then could see a light blue smoke. Worried, he went upstairs to investigate. Mr. Bentley's bedroom was filled with smoke and in the bathroom there lay the charred remains of Mr. Bentley. All that was left of the old man was the lower half of his right leg with his slipper still on it. The rubber stoppers on his walker which lay beside his remains were still intact and the bathtub was hardly scorched. Gosnell ran for help. It was first thought that Mr. Bentley set himself on fire with his pipe, but it was soon discovered that his pipe was still on it's stand by the bed in his bedroom. The coroner noted his death was caused by asphyxiation and 90% burning of the body.

January 6th, 1980
Blackwood, Ebbw Vales, Wales - the police and forensic officers discovered a mans body burnt beyond recognition in his living room. The armchair that he was sitting in had hardly been damaged along with some nearby plastic objects. The fire that had killed the man had been so intense that it left a coating of vaporized flesh on the ceiling

October 1980


An airwoman by the name of Jenna Winchester burst into flames whilst sitting in a car next to a friend in Florida. Her friend saw yellow flames coming from Jenna and heard her scream "Get me out of here!" and saw her trying to beat out the flames with her bare hands. The car crashed into a telephone pole. Jenna survived the experience with 20% of her body covered in burns

24th March, 1997


Co Kerry, Irish Republic. 76 year old John O'Connor was found dead in his living room at Gortaleen by the community nurse who regularly visited him. Mr O'Connors charred remains were in a chair positioned some distance from his hearth. Only his head and upper torso along with his feet remained unburnt. There was little smoke damage to the room or furniture. The Local priest who attended the scene described it as "if somebody had poured petrol into his lap".








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Hell, I am shocked that you would put Science and SHC in the same sentance.

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oops. I just saw the '?' sorry

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oops. I just saw the '?' sorry

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How could you not put SHC in the same sentence as "science?"



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Eighty percent of the victims are female

Most of the victims were alcoholics

The victim had usually been drinking heavily prior to the death.

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Last year, I was studying very intensely for finals. That's when it happened. My head burst into flames!

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It is science, Spook. Just because they haven't figured it out yet, doesn't mean it isn't.

It is absolutely astounding, especially the way the heat is so confined. The Raku kilns I work with are well insulated but even with that, a piece of paper resting against one at 1800 degrees will blacken. I can't see how the fire doesn't consume more.

Very strange shit.

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I do know (i saw an interview) there is a guy who lived through it. He said his arm start to feel hot, and then burn soon it was smoking and a flame coming out of it. He said he wasn’t around a spark, or flame.
That would be some freaky ass shit.
They didn’t cover that in the "pig" project.


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It is science, Spook. Just because they haven't figured it out yet, doesn't mean it isn't.

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If spontaneous human combustion is "real" or not, in the sense that it exists in reality, is not important.

What is truly wonderful is the moral lesson one can learn from the IDEA of another so called individual bursting into flames at a moments notice.
SHC is a concept very much like life itself. you could be living a normal life one day, and be dead the next. who is to say life is better than death? who is to say that our fate is not decided right now? catching fire is just the earthly manifestation of these facts.

so it be.

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it'd be a damn good party trick

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At the end of the documentary they are able to replicate the SHC. A pig burns completely because of what as known as the wick effect. The pig fat acts as a fuel and the animal is consumed in a small, super hot, long burning fire. They stick a probe in the pig and it was burning at over 800 degrees. After several hours its bones were turning to ash yet the area around it was hardly touched. The only thing left unexplained was how one of the victims burned in a reported 20 minutes, but the scientists felt that the facts in that case must have been misreported.

It was an interesting documentary, although I thought it was funny that they interviewed a school bus driver who looks like one of the local rock DJs here and who is some kind of "expert" on SHC. His theory is that it has to do with some sort of thermal yoga energy and also underground energy pockets.

Did you catch the on the Yeti that they had on before it? That was interesting too.

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hell yea! i just want to know how this all happens though. i mean we have SHC. Then we have roswell area 51. And we supposedly have a case where a "greater being" fell from the sky thatw was apx. 50 thousand tons and about a mile around falling somewhere in the netherlands. dont know if any of you heard of that one cause it was a while ago, about 1923, but government seems to be keeping it under wraps. I wonder if there is some sort of glitch inside the coding of life. n e suggestions?

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n e suggestions?

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