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Another asylum no0b

Sup peep and peepette residents of the Asylum.

I'm a friend of Dingle's. I lurk here occassionally and sometimes pipe in with my two gold pieces of sometimes witless opinions, which I'm sure you get plenty of from other semi-lurkers as well

I run the ebolter inn, a forum very similar in style and composition to this one, except I wrote my own message board script... unlike that coding no0b Dingle, who had to haxx0r the UBB script. rofl. (j/k bro. you know that I think j00 rule and whatnot.)

Anyway, feel free to drop by the inn, by leave your sanity here.. because the inn is as addicting as any drug. Just ask Dingle.

And nice to meet j00.

-Ima Supa

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**hits supa in the head with uninitiated asteriods*

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I went to your site, in fact I have been once before, and both times I have walked away extremely frustrated. I may be uninitiated in the land of message boards, but how do you actually read someone’s post? I can see the titles and titles of the replies but that’s it. Is there any more to the posts than the titles?

I am so close to hitting the monitor.


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i tried to but it is worse than ezbord and that is hard to do


so DIE

or tell me how to see

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Well, the dealio with threaded boards (unlike flat boards, like UBB) is that most of the relevant content is in the subject. Plus you can see direct replies to posts instead of guessing which post a person is replying to (excluding of course using the (quote) tags)...

See how this board has something like 1600+ "topics"? That is how many topics the ebolter inn gets in a single day...

It is more like a web-based IRC chat than a serious discussion board, although the ability to have serious discussions exists (and is used quite often).

-Ima Supa

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yup the inn is pretty addictive, all the content is in the subjects with the [NT] tag... any that dont have that tag do actually have content.

look at it as a kind of chat, with using the subject lines of the message
but people can come in at anytime and read the history of what people have said. a bit like java chat - but with a _really_ long scroll back

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ima Supa:
Well, the dealio with **snip**
-Ima Supa

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I went and looked at your site. I assumed that since you were a "friend" of Dingle's (we didn't know he had any friends, actually) you would have mentioned the Asylum at your site. You didn't, so that would make this nothing but gratuitous spam.
See RW dog above.

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Originally posted by wonderaz:
I went and looked at your site. I assumed that since you were a "friend" of Dingle's (we didn't know he had any friends, actually) you would have mentioned the Asylum at your site. You didn't, so that would make this nothing but gratuitous spam.
See RW dog above.

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Originally posted by -Anth3m-:
DY-NO-MIIIIITTTTEEE!!!!!!!

Ok, so the dilly-dally-dilly-O mah supa freakay fly guy, iz-illy-o that's I ain't-a hip-dillly-illy-O to the CRAY-Z jive...

You DIG??

*sheesh*

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Originally posted by Ima Supa:
Sup peep and peepette residents of the Asylum.

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i like you already

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"(unlike flat boards, like UBB)"
- Uhhh, the UBB is not a "flat" board. The UBB is a threaded discussion, your board is a linear discussion. Christ, seems another moron joins the fray, just what was needed.

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"Breaker of UBB code, worldwide...Before Infopop started infringing upon individuals 1st Amendment rights. They believe they own what you say on their message boards."

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What a warm welcome...
Howdy there Ima Supa, enjoy your stay, don't mind the local pests. We spray in half an hour anyway

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Gotdayum, Dingle! Git that shit outta here! It doesn't matter that I've seen much, much worse; that's still fuckin' awful.

Amen.

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quote:

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"(unlike flat boards, like UBB)"
- Uhhh, the UBB is not a "flat" board. The UBB is a threaded discussion, your board is a linear discussion. Christ, seems another moron joins the fray, just what was needed.

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Wrong pal.

See, since I don't know you well enough to figure out if your post is some sort of joke, I will err on the side of caution and read it as a serious attempt by you to try to belittle someone. heh

UBB is a FLAT forum.

Why?

Let us disect what the adjective flat means in terms of a collection of sets of data, such as what one might find in a database, or more appropriately, what one might find in a message forum.

Flat means that a single container is utilized to store all relavent data. For instance, a flat database would have a single table that would contain all relavent information, even if redundant. A good example of a flat database is dBase. In a flat database, one might have a table called "orders" that might keep track of all orders that have been placed. Inside this table one might find a information relating to the customer who placed the order, what they ordered, how much each piece costs, how much the total order was, etc. It is very inefficient use of space. To accomodate for those inefficiencies, relational databases were created.

Instead of storing every last detail about a customer in the orders table, one could reference the customer by a customer_ID number, which would be related to a customers table. There are several types of relationships, including 1 to many, 1 to 1, and many to many. This doesn't include or preclude nested relationships.

How does this apply to forums, one might ask?

A flat forum is a collection of single containers (thread) which contains all replies to the thread in question.

A threaded forum is a collection of related containers, which contain threads that may or may not be nested. Each reply to the original thread is in fact its own thread and can exist outside of the container (master thread).

-Ima Supa, the moron peeps sometimes get confused with the local fleshy brain who loves to expose his brainstem and lives in a jar of Fosters




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Gosh, I guess the new blood didn't count on someone who Moderated the Infopop Code Hacking forum for 4 years trying to explain to him that UBB database information is NOT stored in a flat database. Hence, by your very own description.

"Flat means that a single container is utilized to store all relavent data."
- There is no single container which stores relevent forum OR post OR user data within the UBB. Looks like you've helped me prove yourself wrong. Ignorance is wonderful, isn't it?

"A threaded forum is a collection of related containers..."
- No it isn't. Threaded forums pertain to the type of discussions, i.e. threaded. 99% of these forums have data which is contained in a FLAT text file.

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Former Moderator - UBB Code Hacking
Infopop Corporation - Ultimate Bulletin Board
http://www.infopop.com

"Breaker of UBB code, worldwide...Before Infopop started infringing upon individuals 1st Amendment rights. They believe they own what you say on their message boards."

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y0 wraith j00 no0b

whats the problem jeb, i mean that is your mail order bride Chun Lee isnt it?

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*cheers* A FIGHT A FIGHT! Two cranky bastards, full of spite!

-m


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quote:

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"Flat means that a single container is utilized to store all relavent data."
- There is no single container which stores relevent forum OR post OR user data within the UBB. Looks like you've helped me prove yourself wrong. Ignorance is wonderful, isn't it?

"A threaded forum is a collection of related containers..."
- No it isn't. Threaded forums pertain to the type of discussions, i.e. threaded. 99% of these forums have data which is contained in a FLAT text file.

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Ok, I don't know this supa guy, but I'm rooting for him, because as we all know, GaryColeman already proved the Wraith to be a wanna be gheek who just cuts and pastes technical information from other places on the net. But I'm problably the only one that would remember that.

Besides, in a very fun way, The Wraith is a petty dork who is, surprisingly, amusing.

I think he's cute, in that "pity" sort of way.

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Originally posted by The Wraith:
Gosh, I guess the new blood didn't count on someone who Moderated the Infopop Code Hacking forum for 4 years ....*snip*

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This just ain't your week, is it, Wraithy?

Here, have a peanut.

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Originally posted by Ima Supa:


Kudos on your forum moderation of UBB for 4 years. I also know someone who worked at Bennigans for several years, but that doesn't mean she knew how to cook.

-Ima Supa

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