Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Boston
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Someone feel like explaining a bunch of things about marijuana?

I have 3 types of friends: dorky ones (good number of them), weird ones (small number of them), and druggies (good number of them). My best friend happens to be one of the druggies, which I am not. I don't smoke, drink, shoot up, anything. He's no drug fiend, but he's tried a bit of stuff.

Anyway.

On a few occassions, he's stayed out of everything for a few weeks, even months, and every time he tells me how great it feels to not be smoking pot. Then he's back into it. He's been looking for the "ultimate high" (named Teddy Buddha) and he found it a few weeks ago in a bong designed using the power of physics, created by a few of our mutual friends from UMass Amherst. After that he said he felt that he didn't see a reason to smoke anymore unless it was from a bong of that design, and even then there wasn't much of a point. His mom is incredibly suspicious of him smoking pot at this point. Practically paranoid. He's 18 and heading off to college this fall, but he has to live with that woman for the next 2 months either way.

Tonight he gave me a call to go hang out with another friend, hit a CD store, maybe somewhere else, so I say sure. He gets to my house, tells me we're picking up another friend too (a man with a major pot connection, the FBI is somewhat investigating this connection apparently) and that the mission of the evening is to find the necessary parts to construct his own Teddy Buddha.

Can someone explain this guy's actions? Is marijuana truly this powerful, this good, something that's so incredible? He lies his ass off to his mom about it, he feels it's his god given right to smoke it. He also feels he's a waste of space when he's high. Eh, some of this is ramble, but I'm sick of it all and I wanna know if this is what sticks with people for the rest of their lives. I just hate having a best friend who is on a roll like this.

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Texas
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"Someone feel like explaining a bunch of things about marijuana?"

Well, since you asked so nicely, no not really. Thanks though.

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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: London UK
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yeah weed can be that damn good...

just depends on

1. what grade of weed it is...
2. what (if anything) it has been laced with.

i've smoked a fair bit in my time... some stuff that sends you into fits of giggles with masive paranoia too aswell as major psychedelics mixed in.

if this weed is that damn good that you might as well just smoke it straight, bong it if you will but hey its your choice...

Me.

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Erm,,,,GSMBA, you wouldn't happened to be stoned right now, would you?
I think you need to go read the post again. I don't think you were being asked WHETHER it is worth smoking.

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Registered: May 2001
Location: Louisiana
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Well weed IS addictive. Not like heroin or anything, but if you do it enough you can become a pothead. And like anything addictive, such as cigarettes or alcohol, even if you tell yourself its bad for you and you won't do it again that doesn't mean your body isn't screaming for you to get some. Breaking his habit would be hard.

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Texas
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THC isnt physiologically addictive, only psychologically. Either way though, lights me up one.

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Registered: Jun 2001
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Hmmm...all my friends that smoke weed don't quite act like that. I mean sure they lie to their parents and such about it, but they lie to their parents about a lot of things. Course my friends just smoke weed when out having fun. There's a different between people who smoke weed and those who are just potheads. Just like how there are people who drink when out with friends and alcoholics.

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Drugs = suxor

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quote:

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THC isnt physiologically addictive, only psychologically. [This message has been edited by yMQ (edited 06-28-2001).]

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: southern island
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To some weed is a creative outlet. I speak for myself here. Anyway, Sounds like your friend is just experimenting. Don’t take it to serious. Nothing wrong with a little herb. Now when he starts crawling on the floor, picking up every piece of lint he sees looking for a rock he might have dropped, be worried. Matter of fact, stay way from him.

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Location: London UK
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quote:

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Originally posted by wonderaz:
Erm,,,,GSMBA, you wouldn't happened to be stoned right now, would you?
I think you need to go read the post again. I don't think you were being asked WHETHER it is worth smoking.

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Smacking your head against a wall can be addictive, if you reinforce the behaviour though some means. Marijuana is not physically addictive, Firedrops - that is pure bollocks. However, if you like it enough, it can be easy to make a habit of, simply because it has so few consequences. Oh no, I gained a few pounds from eating too much goddamn McDonald's! Unlike a week-long bottle bender, you can smoke the roof off every night for a month with little in the way of medical repercussions. It is no more difficult to quit smoking pot than it is to quit anything that you really enjoy, but some people have addictive personalities which cause them to form attachments to the mental state of being stoned. This is indicative of a problem that existed before the pot, and not because of it.

There is a saying among druggies - *innocent look* - that goes: YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). Every drugs reacts differently on each person, due to quality of the substance or herb, the processing it undergoes, the physiology and neurochemistry of the user, and various other factors such as temperature, etc. So some people have a horrible time smoking pot and complain about feeling stupid, or tired, or just shitty. Other people really get off on it, have a great time, cracking jokes all night.

Your friend's smoking patterns sound a little like mine. I've smoked pot on and off since the start of high school. I've spent a couple months altogether over the past 6 years being a big pothead, but for the vast majority of my 'smoking life', it's been an occassional habit. It can be lot of fun, but like any drug, it has it's ups and downs.

First off, if you don't lie to your parents, or at least hide the truth, your relationship with your parents is either freakishly unnatural (incest) or freakishly healthy (meaning your 'rents aren't nazis and have a measure of understanding). Not all kids are lucky enough to have understanding parents, and his mom sounds like she has the potential to become, and this is the technical term, a "psycho hose-beast," if she ever found out. He has damn good reason to avoid telling her the truth, because you can't reason (as opposed to rationalize) with most of the people caught in the grip of the War on Drugs. All too often they are vicious, vindictive beasts which you should be careful not to arouse. Otherwise, they can be quite pleasant.

It's not a right to smoke up, that's ridiculous. However, pursuing interesting and fun experiences is pretty natural, whether it be smoking a joint, driving fast, or rock climbing. They all have their dangers (pot being the least dangerous of those three), but they're also quite worthwhile for the people who love them. But your friend doesn't seem to feel very comfortable when he smokes up, and yet he does it anyways... that doesn't sound very healthy.

It could be nothing; occassionally when I'm really fucked up I'll remember something stupid I did earlier in the day and my night will be ruined, because my mind will keep coming back to the event and just depress me. That isn't indicative of a problem with pot, but it's not fun. Your friend may feel the same way. But if he has a serious difficulty trying to stay off pot, he might want to considering asking for help from his friends, a counsellor, someone, anyone but his mother.

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Registered: Aug 2000
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Oh, and if you have any more questions, feel free to ask. Also, you can find more information about pot/marijuana/cannabis at Erowid.

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I just finished watch "Friday" I bought it today. Weird coincidance...

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Eh I didn't mean it was physically addictive. Sorry if it came out that way. I just mean that it is a habit thats hard to break. I sure know a lot of friends that sit there in class or around family dying for a smoke more than some people crave a cigg.

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Bangor, ME
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i'm guessing the buddha bong is a gravity bong
but i recently just started smoking again, although i'm never going back to the pothead i once was. it is fun stuff. however i am assuming that he is sort of a newbie to smoking pot ie: less then a year or so
"ever looked at a dollar bill.........on weed? its great man. look in the bushes, is that a guy with a gun, i dunno! red team go! red team go!" -jon steward in Half Baked
heh, sorry that quote came to mind

damn im ranting, but kick his ass if he does hard shit

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He's an idiot?

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Originally posted by AlcoholSoopaFiend:

damn im ranting, but kick his ass if he does hard shit

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*ahem*

ok nute, 'hard drugs' are highly addictive, regardless of their choice to do them. but as a friend i would try to convince them not to do them, as it causes high levels of withdrawl, unlike pot.
and yes valium is addictive and legal, that isn't my point. rather then make them legal, let them have a choice to take them, where peer pressure takes effect. which is where i come in
rather then take the stance "those are illegal you shouldn't do them" i would say "you dumbass, you are wasting money" might as well buy a bag of herbs for a quarter of the price. whether it is wrong is up to the person. a friend stepping in isn't illegal, merely a friendly reminder

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Registered: Jul 2000
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hey man like pass tha bong dude this is some really good shit man hahahahahaha if i wasn so stoned id go to mcdonalds man hahahahahaha im like totaly trippin dude thank god it doesnt like kill brain cells and stuff hahahahahahah lets skip school all week man and just get baked all day long man hahahahha

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"hard drugs" can be more addicting, but at the same time I don't think that a person should draw a line between them just on this fact along. It is dangerous and risky to flirt with addiction, but I figure that we ought to cease distinctions between drugs based on "good" or "bad" drugs and recognize them instead based on factors about what they are, what they do, and the risks involved. Intelligent treatment of this sort of chemical substances of all kind is far more likely to yield the most productive results, methinks.

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Hedonism might of coverd thing along with others... but i will skip ahead and post my 3.2 cents keeping in mind it is 315am

i smoke alot of weed (and i mean alot) and i havent had any in two days and im fine shure ild like to catch a buzz but i allways would like to

anyone thats addicted to weed is... well... hummm... WEAK... any one that uses weed then moves onto hard drugs... is well humm... WEAK... i have been smokeing for 20 years or so off and on and 5 years dayly (minus a few days here and there due to extrenuating cercumbstances

weed dose not make me "parinoine" hungy... giggly... it keep me from pummiling certint ppl and makes me talkitive...

but thats just me... i smoke to much to get stupid...

anything else can be directed here
http://www.jackherer.com/book/ch01.html

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*braces himself for the incoming onslaught*



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