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Scientists: Monster hurricanes could hit U.S

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Weather researchers think the evidence is now clear: A major shift in the climate has taken place that has brought about an increase in major hurricanes. The period of heightened activity could last for decades, and unleash a catastrophic storm on the United States, according to meteorologists.

Since the climate shift began six years ago, when the Atlantic Ocean began looking like a hurricane freeway, the number of hurricanes that have formed in the Atlantic basin has doubled, said scientists at the U.S. Hurricane Research Division.

The number of major hurricanes, which produce winds in excess of 110 miles an hour, has also increased during the period by 250 percent, they said. The increased activity will continue for the next ten to 40 years, which could mean trouble for the United States.

"Most seasons we are going to get a hurricane hit the U.S. and probably more than half the time we will have a major hurricane hitting the U.S. as well," said hurricane meteorologist Chris Landsea.

Already hurricanes have increased in number and intensity. Since 1995,the Caribbean has been pounded by deadly storms like Mitch, Lenny, Marilyn, Luis and Georges. Spared the brunt of the storms, the United States has simply been lucky so far, the scientists warned.

"With the increased number, if it starts pounding the U.S., as we feel like it is going to happen, there's bound to be a major city impacted and we could be talking about a real disaster of epic proportions on our hands," said hurricane meteorologist Stanly Goldenberg.

A hurricane causing $50 billion in damage and hundreds to thousands of deaths is quite possible in the next ten or 20 years, according to Landsea.

"I think at this point the U.S. is so developed and there's so many people along the coast that just about anywhere is a major disaster ready to happen."

Scientists say the Earth's climate goes through cycles, but they don't know why. Right now, Atlantic water temperatures are slightly warmer than usual, by just half a degree Fahrenheit. And in general, there is less wind shear.

The current conditions resemble those in 1900 when Galveston, Texas, was nearly obliterated, and the time between the 1920s and 1960s when hurricanes repeatedly slammed into Florida and the disastrous Yankee Clipper hit New York.

The period from 1965 to 1995 saw opposite conditions, cooler water and more wind shear, neither of which fosters hurricane development.

Times have changed. From Florida to New England, everywhere along the East Coast is now at increased risk of a major hurricane, the scientists said.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WEATHER/07/...anes/index.html

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All that from just half a degree. Imagine what would happen if global warming is real and changes temperatures by the predicted 3-7 degrees?

Worth the risk for acting like irresponsible negligent children? I think not.

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lucky I live on the furrest point inland on the east coast. The biggest danger from hurricanes here are the ones the skirt the coast from Jacksonvill,fl. and the ones that cross flodia going north from the Gulf of mexico. If one were to hit here I'd be under 10 feet of water and very few homes would make it. My house being an 80+ year old beach house would be gone the newer condos up the street are hurricane proof, being made of brick and reinforced with steel that runs down to bedrock. The first floor of these places are 10 feet off the ground. They have placed a rock and concret wall along the coastline that has caused the beach slow vanish. Now the only time there is a beach is during low tide. Sea island is the only place that has real beachs any more during high tide. They are also the only ones the have sand dunes that have been untouched.

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Originally posted by Nutrimentia:
All that from just half a degree. Imagine what would happen if global warming is real and changes temperatures by the predicted 3-7 degrees?

Worth the risk for acting like irresponsible negligent children? I think not.

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More scientists say global warming is not an issue than there are who say it is, only they don’t get air time on CNN. Don’t let em scare you Nutri, they have an agenda
Hey, remember how before the year 2000 they were talking about the end of the world?
Pollution is down in the states, still efforts are being made and they are only going to go down more. That joke of a treaty would do nothing for the problem except redistribute wealth and probably make the pollution problem worse (like I have argued over and over again so Ill spare you the details yet again)

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COOL.

Whenever we go to Hurricane Threat Alert Readiness Position State of Readiness, we have to batten down all the hatches, board up all the windows on base, secure all flying objects and debris, and run food to the hurricane shelters and whatnot. We sit in the shelters for a couple of days eating MREs and playing cards, arm-wrestling, et cetera.

I'm young and stupid and thus I think this is fun.

Alternately I can get "accidentally" stranded offbase and weather the storm in my car...ie just see what it's like to be out in Nature's Fury and all that. Ought to be pretty cool and it's not as if any force less than the Hand of God Himself is going to budge a beast like my '63 Merc so I ought to be reasonably safe.

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More scientists say global warming is not an issue than there are who say it is,

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I feel the need to quote someone else in here on this one in response to the ludricous 'redistribution' arguments.
http://www.asylumnation.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010326.html

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Kyoto is really an practical aid program for those countries that more often than not waste aid cash on guns for civil wars and maintaining dictators in power. If the indutrialsied nations of the world stop feeding them money and start feeding them technology to use practicial you can eliminate more than one bird with the same stone.

You can ensure that the nations hundreds of years behind ours do not put the world through hundreds of years of old indutrialisation and in following us, whilst at the same time improve our own methods. You can also stop the needless waste of aid in those countries wehere corruption is rife because you monitor the technologies usage and development, and avoid the unecessary need for carnage, genocide or whatever.

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Originally posted by Spooky:
Please note those scientists you are referring to are american in a majority. Could that also be an agenda?

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Please note those scientists you are referring to are american in a majority. Could that also be an agenda?

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bring them on
ive lived through so many fucking horrible hurricanes, im not scared anymore.
come and get me motherfuckers.


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Don't worry Chelle...you can always ride out the storm in the backseat of my '63 Merc...

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Originally posted by Princess_Chelle:
come and get me motherfuckers.

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Hurricanes are fun. We usually ride them out here, our house survived Hugo (the worst to hit our beach in recent history) with barely a scratch.. The piddling hurricanes that have hit in recent years were jokes.. dad usually sits outside drinking and watching the storm. One year we had neighbors over to play pool with us (outside, under the carport).

I missed Floyd, being in Arizona at the time, but that didn't do too much damage here anyway.

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More scientists say global warming is not an issue than there are who say it is, only they don’t get air time on CNN. Don’t let em scare you Nutri, they have an agenda
Hey, remember how before the year 2000 they were talking about the end of the world?
Pollution is down in the states, still efforts are being made and they are only going to go down more. That joke of a treaty would do nothing for the problem except redistribute wealth and probably make the pollution problem worse (like I have argued over and over again so Ill spare you the details yet again)

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Originally posted by Nutrimentia:
I bet you think the ozone problem is a liberal conspiracy as well, don't you?

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i can barely hide my contempt for HELL anymore, i do try and restrain my feelings of disbelief and astonishment for the majority of things that she posts.

Talk about burrying your head in the sand.

I'd like to know from what part of the U.S. is HELL from, to see if the stereotype of heard of is based upon her.

Ive met so many cool americans and she lets them down.

Global warming is happening! stop trying to ignore it! and how the fuck can a country that is planning to build some fifty power stations be reducing pollution? Answer me this, and before you ask me my source for this information, it was the BBC six o'clock news, normally reasonably unbiased.

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I'm currently making my way through the summations of the recently published reports from the committee appointed to investigate the issues of climate change. Even these summations are quite sizeable documents. I would have liked to examine the published reports themselves, but I can't afford to buy them.

I will provide links to these free, downloadable PDFs shortly.

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I bet you think the ozone problem is a liberal conspiracy as well, don't you?

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No, there are far more people who say it isn’t a man made problem than say it is.

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hahahah....so let me see right. The whole in the ozone layer over the poles is getting bigger year on year. Fact. CFCs deplete Ozone. Laboratory proven Fact. CFC's are man made.

Are you really standing here and saying more scientists think the ozone problem is not man made than those that do? Show me that please.

My god you are such an ignorant bitch

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lol
You’re a fucking idiot.
I’m sure the piece of land I was born on has anything to do with my personality you moron; instead of the accumulated experiences of my life.
What is it about people like you who are so "open minded" until someone disagrees with you eh? You sir, are the one with your head in the sand. Go fuck your self.

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how exactly do i have my head in the sand?

if someone disagrees with me, and that prove my argument to be flawed then i will accept their argument simple as that.

i think the place where someone was born has a great deal to do with the shaping of one's personality. lifes experiences are what shape us, or do you disagree with that? Ilive in London and have a city dwellers mentality, everything i do is done fast, im cynical, i consider myself to be reasonably well educated, i live in the most cosmopoitan city on the planet, i have to be open minded otherwise i'd get killed or live a life of fear.

i was wondering if you come from the mid-west, because there is a stereotype of the midwest that ive heard other americans talk about and you seem to fit with their descriptions.

next time i want to be called names i'll make my name to the nearest shcool playground and get myself into a cussing match, thanks.

by the way splat, sp00kys mother passed away some years ago, where is your respect for the dead?

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