I was talking to a friend of mine today about gas prices and I remarked about how expensive dinosaur petroleum deposits were starting to get. It started me thinking about the lengths we go to find oil and drill it up. Which made me think about the age old debate of creation Vs evolution.

I also came up with a question that I doubt many rational people can answer without a leap of faith towards creationism.

If these petroleum deposits are dead dinosaurs and we have to drill sometimes miles and miles before reaching these petroleum deposits. Then where did all this land mass come from that buried these dinosaurs?

I mean if the dinosaurs took millions of years to turn into oil and they were buried under miles of earth then the earth either reshaped itself drastically or land mass was added to the earth to bury these dinosaurs. I am not a geologist so I really don't know how these dinosaurs could be buried so deep within the earth.

Could it be that these oil deposits were placed there in the creation of this planet?

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Considering the physical evidence against creation, like dinosaur fossils, and the fact that the date christianity gives for the "creation" and the fact that this time period was not something recorded in the Bible but figured out by Bishop Usher (around 532 AD) by adding up all the ages of the characters in the Bible and calling that the definative age of the planet, I wouldn't call it a leap of faith to assume that these petroleum deposits (which are more plant than animal in origin) were formed in the time that geologists say theywere.

Consider the fact that these religions now accept the layout of the solar system, the galaxies, etc. They didn't at one time.
I would think that eventually, religions will alter their stance on creationism and accept the obvious as they have for so many other scientific assertions.

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Way to go, wonderaz, way to go...

Plant or animal aside how did they get buried so far beneath the surface of the earth?

We are talking miles under the earth were other fossils are discovered much closer to the earths surface...

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Dirt is the remains of plant material for the most part. When leaves fall and plants die they break down into soil. Over the years that layer of remains builds up. It then (at least here in TN) turns into a very thick layer of clay once it has been buried awhile and then later, that clay gets squeezed under the wieght of the soil above it. It eventually turns into rock, oil, coal, and other basic substances as time, pressure, and other natural forces act upon it.

Oil is created not so much by "dinosaurs." as the old saying goes. Mostly it comes from where old swamps once where. Those oil deposits where once peat and compressed plant material. I've read reports that places like the swamps of Florida and Louisiana will someday be extremely oil rich deposit in say, 100 million years or so.

The ground has another strange effect. It seems to suck things down. Gravity can slowly pull things down into the earth because the dirt the object sits on is comprised on a large part of air. In a way, it can be considered a fluid of a sort, like glass is. Eventually, if left alone, objects can be completely covered by the forces of gravity and plants dying on top of it. Given time and chance, the ground will sometimes churn the object back to the surface. This I've seen IRL in a field planted year after year. Objects like arrowheads and other dodads would appear sticking out of the surface on a regular basis despite the fact that they would have been shattered by the plow the year before had they been up that high.

Hope I helped explain things abit.

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There is plenty of scientific evidence out there that explains why the dinosaurs are buried and how they got to the point where they are. I wouldn't say that oil deposits were put there. And besides, as timeenoughforlove said, oil deposits come from swamps and bogs and plant remains.

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Uh.. the eart reshapes itself drastically all the time, most of it's under the ocean or way out at sea so we don't see it. Study some basic stuff about how land masses are formed and it's not too hard to figure out. Also, wasn't there a thread on Slashdot about new findings possibly showing that the oil could be methane trapped when the earth was first forming?

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this thread should begin

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But alas, I have no edit power here.

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This thread should start off: I failed Earth Science, but that's another story . . .

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. . . Could it be that these oil deposits were placed there in the creation of this planet?

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Yes i is a good thread. My crusty memory is what I pulled my first post from and I was off on Usher's dates by a 1000 years or so, the early 1600.s being more accurate.

The original question is a good one with a hard answer as one must base their choice on either faith or theory. Although I do believe that the earth is far, far older than Usher calculated, I am also aware that we still have much to learn about both issues.
Thanks to swingfly for the info sent, very interesting.

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