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squee
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Malicious, or merely stupid?

Well, my idiot friend Duane has done it again.

There is this gay dude at the coffee joint I always end up at. Nice enough guy, actually one of the most intelligent people there. We always bullshit about architecture. Anyway he told Duane that he had gotten my number, but had misplaced it, so would Duane please give him my phone number? And Duane, being a fucking clown, gave it to him.

Now...being male, I know how males operate. Why would someone would resort to subterfuge in order to gain my phone number...? Because he's trying to get some ass, that's why. If there's anything I've learned it's that gay men are just like straight men in that they are overly persistent and refuse to take a hint. I think the four messages in two days that I've gotten on my voice mail are a pretty good indicator of that.

Anyway. That's just more crap I have to deal with. What I want to know is...is Duane merely an idiot or is he purposefully doing things to piss me off? At what point do I reach "the thousand injuries of Fortunato" and when can I brick him up inside a wall?

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madlucas
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I leave my number tacked to bulliten boards at coffee shops and grocery stores, and I've yet to get a single call. you should consider youself lucky. that is unless your hetro .. I have no idea what your gender preference is (you've probably stated it before, but to be honest I pay little attention to such things), but if you're gay, you should hit it. I've often considered going fag just so I could get more action, and if it weren't for the fact that men have harry balls I would probably be able to make the switch.

and it sounds to me like duane is just trying to get you out on a saturday night .. maybe he thinks you spend to much time sitting in front of your computer, chatting away your time on message boards. he might just be looking out for your best interest .. again, we should all be so lucky.

then again he might just be a dolt .. better brick him up just to be safe.

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C'mon on now squee, it could be beautiful!

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quote:
Originally posted by MadLucas
I've often considered going fag just so I could get more action, and if it weren't for the fact that men have harry balls I would probably be able to make the switch.





We could hook you up with Cage if the hairy balls thing is all that's holding you back.

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Oh - I thought this was going to be about someone else.

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hello, sailor

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This will teach you not to sit in a coffee shop reading Le Monde or the Prague Post.

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He obviously likes you.....I dont think you should be mad at him, just explain your orientation, you cant blame the guy for trying.....after all, so many men claim to be straight but would go the other way for teh right occasion, I dont imagine hes trying to make you mad, if hes willing to go as far as lying to get your number my guess would be that he has a big crush...If this were a women doing this would it bother you? If not, just try to keep it in perspective....after all, its nice to be liked.....

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..........and get the occassional blowjob.

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squee
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The possibility of anything occuring between the two of us is so remote as to appear on the far side of an improbability singularity. Because I am not only hetero but also a religious celibate (both of which are understood) his persistence is irritating. And yes, it's flattering and bleedy bleedy blah; but regardless of who it is, if someone spins lies in order to worm their way into my life and ignores all the reasons why they shouldn't, then why should the expect a warm welcome?

In any case, the bulk of my irritation is not reserved for this guy, it's for the clown who gave away my number in the first place.

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When you say religious celibate, do you mean you plan on becoming a religious? Or do you mean that you are simply practicing abstinence before marriage? Just curious, really, because I haven't met anybody in a long time who considered taking vows. If so, what order would you pick and why?

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Or maybe he thought you were really friends with the guy? Or is it very widely known that you never befriend people of different sexual orientation?

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all bullshit aside, squee. I think yer buddy was fuckin with you when he did it. I could give a shit about the rest, but, well, you did post a thread about it.

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So why haven't you asked ole Duano about it?

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If someone asked me for someone elses number cos they had lost it, I would say somehting like 'I don't have it on me... tell you what, let me take your number and I'll give it to them when I see them next.' Although if I knew it was someone my friend spoke to regularly, I probably wouldn't question it and give it to them.

If anyone is in the wrong here it's the 'gay dude'. Why couldn't he ask you for your number? Maybe you should confront HIM about it, and let him know that you really aren't interested. Some people need things to be spelled out for them.

Duane probably didn't realise that you didn't want to give your number out. And being a friend of yours I doubt he would have done anything like that maliciously. Unless of course you have really crap friends.

If the gay dude doesn't listen, get a restraining order.

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wow. slappy's frontier justice

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Malicious? Stupid? I say neither. It's fucking hilarious. It sounds like you have issues with this Duane guy. If one of my friends did this to me or vice versa, we'd have a few laughs about it then drop it, but we'd expect revenge.
Maybe you can't take a joke?

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Duane probably didn't realise that you didn't want to give your number out. And being a friend of yours I doubt he would have done anything like that maliciously. Unless of course you have really crap friends.

If the gay dude doesn't listen, get a restraining order.



But this isn't squee's first "situation" with Duane. He posted another thread a while back on other shit that this boy has pulled on him.
I think both squee and the guy interested in him are getting played by Duane.

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I think that squee shoud get some new friends and drink in a different coffee shop!!

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I theeeenks you are right, Bonita.

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squee
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Wow. Slappy is doubleplusright.

Shyloh, on the other hand...
At issue is not my propensity to make friends under any of a variety of circumstances, but rather, my friend's lack of common sense, understanding of social dynamics, and class. Do you really think that doubt as to whether or not you could possibly maybe befriend someone you had hardly ever met could ever mitigate someone handing out your phone number to someone who was obviously seeking ass? I'll tell you what--give me your number and I'll give it out with a picture of you so people you don't know who want to get in your guts can call you out for drinks.
Or, should we perhaps make an issue, instead, of your half-assed attempt at dig?

Mugteaux: I plan on attending seminary with the Society of Emmanuel in Belgium after my postgrad work. So technically I will be a religious order priest-at-large when I am ordained rather than a parish type. I have also been courting the Benedictines in my head for some time...in any case the life I have chosen to live is the same, even if I have not taken the vows in view of witnesses.

wonderaz raises my point...is Duane an idiot or is he really being a villain? Does he deserve to be shunned or does he deserve an ass-kicking? This is what I want to know...

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but rather, my friend's lack of common sense




Again, common sense regarding...? You said so yourself that you had got along nicely with this said gay guy, and if duanne knew this, why should he have assumed you two didn't exchange numbers or hung out once in a while? Did you specifically tell him "don't give any guy who asks for my # any info about me"?

and class.
As in social standing of the gay guy in respect to yours, or in the sense of lack of class on duanne's part?


someone you had hardly ever met could ever mitigate someone handing out your phone number to someone who was obviously seeking ass?
I was under the impression that you had conversed with Gay Guy many times before. Oh wait, you have....or at least you said you did:

Nice enough guy, actually one of the most intelligent people there. We always bullshit about architecture.


Now i ask you again, what is so incredibly outrageous about Duanne not knowing that you had not given this guy your phone #? The only reason YOU realized that GayGuy was trying to get some ass is because you alone knew that you never gave him your #. Did Duanne know this? No, from what you have told us, he was only acting on bad judgement. Please tell us then, how he SHOULD have known that this Gay Guy was only seeking ass, if he didn't know that he was lying.


Or, should we perhaps make an issue, instead, of your half-assed attempt at dig?


You are mighty defensive. First you get all huffy puffy that some dirty homo-seckshualle got a hold of your contact info, and now you're apparently kicking out at me for making a 'dig'. What was my post digging at? What, was i saying you're a complete homophobe? Am i wrong, given how huge a deal you're making out of this situation?

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Fucking A, or Duane has a better sense of humor than you. He knew you didn't dig this guy and he gave it for fun.
You need to calm down and take life less seriously, mr. pious man.
I would have thought you'd have a thicker skin, being in the Navy and all.

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Shyloh, in the absence of positive indicators that he may give out my personal information, there is absolutely no reason outside of perhaps dire emergency for Duane, or anyone else, for that matter, to give out said information. There is no way anyone can make a credible argument that they thought it was ok for them to give out my contact info simply because I didn't tell them not to...unless that person is a complete fucking idiot. So is that the argument you want to maintain?

Look. Someone asks my friend for my phone number: there are two errors Duane can make:
1. Keep it in reserve when he should give it out;
2. Give it out when he shouldn't.
If #1 occurs and someone really should have my number, then they can wait. This was obviously not a dire emergency of any sort. The worst that will happen is some delay in their reaching me or something. No big deal.

However, error #2 is far more severe since now some jackass has access to call me and pester me. And this has actually happened.

The fact is, Duane is completely socially retarded and should have wondered to himself why someone would ask around for my phone number without asking me first. Perhaps...because I would not have given it to them? These are things that should occur to anyone, except obviously Duane. Should I forgive him for having bad judgement? You think I should be nice to people when their fuckups impact my personal life? Do you live in a bubble or what?

You are, actually, completely in the wrong for making this an issue about homophobia (yes, that was your pathetic little dig, and a groundless one at that) rather than an issue of personal privacy. The gay dude's advances are unwanted, and I would be equally pissed if it were a female I was uninterested in. Into the penalty box with you.

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You think I should be nice to people when their fuckups impact my personal life? Do you live in a bubble or what?



"Impact your personal life"? "Far more severe?" "Dire emergency?" "Contact info"? "crap I have to deal with?"

Dude, you got four messages from a gay guy on your answering machine. I'd hardly say that the mechanics of your ordinary life are being thrown out of whack here. It's a phone call. He didn't let the guy into your house and watch as he rifled through your underwear drawer. Who gives a shit? Why not just call the gay guy back and tell him you aren't interested? Problem...solved? I don't understand why this situation should warrant you being anything more than slightly annoyed, or why a simple "I'm not interested" followed later by "Duane, don't give out my phone number ever." wouldn't entirely rectify the "problem". Granted, the Duane thing runs deeper than that and it sounds like he's a little clueless in general, but geez, it's not like he fucked your sister or anything.

Why are people so crazy about their phones?

*shrugs*

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