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I'm a huge survivor fan and the thing I notice about that show is that the one that wins the million dollars is usually the one that slithers by quietly and doesn't make himself or herself known to everyone. When you become well liked you are a threat and will eventually be eliminated. If you win reward challenges you are also a threat. In fact,anything good about you in this game is considered a threat and with some exceptions usually the person that wins is the person most watching would not have wanted to win.
I feel like I'm at a point of my life when I can look back at some of the choices that I've made. From the time I was 12 years old I had a paper route and I always strive to do well. The people in the neighborhood seems to have liked me usually tipped me well because I would take that extra step to ensure they always had a dry paper. No I wasn't the paperboy that would just throw the paper at their driveway. I would take it up to their doorstep and put it inside a special box that I suggested to some to have and they loved me for it. Even the ones that never tipped I would still do this for.
I was raised to respect my elders so it didn't matter. I was getting payed to do this job at 12 and I strived to do this well.
I've always been like this. In every job that I have had I strived to do better and better.
Another job in particular I had was at a plastic injection plant where they made plastic and medical parts. There was this machine that bagged spoons,forks and knives. You had three cardboard boxes in front of you and stacks of other boxes next to you that you had to open when your boxes ran out. Then you pull a knife,fork and spoon and put it in it's little pocket on the machine. Then this machine would move it every second and it would bag it,seal it and drop it in an empty box that was originally the box the individual parts were in. You can turn off the machine to catch up or move the boxes around and stuff.
So the factory record in production in this machine for a 12 hour shift was 21 boxes. This record was held by a long time staff there and it stood for many years.
So looking at this machine I figured out that I can use both my hands to pick up the knife fork and spoon. With the knives on the left,the spoons in the middle box and the forks on the right I would with my left hand pick up and twirl the utensils so it's upright in order,knife,spoon fork and with my right hand it would be fork,knives on the left then spoon in the middle.
So at the same speed as everyone else when I did it this way I had two sets on each hand to put in two pockets to their one so essentially I was going twice as fast as everyone else at this machine.
So on one shift I had this machine for the full 12 hours and the time to beat this record was today.
When that 12 hour shift ended I ended up with 32 boxes.
So you think breaking a record like this would be a cool thing?
Hell no.
Soon afterwards I was getting blamed for mistakes the break people made when I would take my breaks to the point that a month later I was let go.
Voted out.
And my previous 15 year job goddamnit I truly went above and beyond and cared a whole lot about the people I served man took them to places the newer staff stressed about even the thought of them doing the same so bye bye me.
Fuck it.
Nothing I can do about it now.
So.
Reason for this blog?
Some advice to all.
If you want to keep a job that you like,
Stay invisible.
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Yesterday woke me up. I was doing my usual ride on Cronus,one of my engine assist bicycles when my tire blew out a good 7 miles away from home. I was rather dehydrated by the time I had gotten home you can check out my video's in my"doing something about my mid life crisis" thread and both my legs had cramped up halfway home.I walked half my distance with two cramped legs it got so bad I started up Cronus just so I didn't have to push her. I mean sure I'm an idiot I should have stopped ANYWHERE and asked to drink from a garden hose I had no money for a bottled water but I didn't do that and I continued home.
I could have called my wife to come get me. She can't drive my standard shift truck I call Luther but I could have easily just locked up my bike have her take me home then bring Luther to pick up my bike but I didn't do that either because I really didn't think I was that far away from home and my pride was behind me. I chose to ride my bicycle to my destinations I choose to live with the consequences.
So that tire that EXPLODED had just 40 psi of air in it. It even says max inflation is 65 psi. It was one of them ultra thick gel tubes inside a Kelvar tire with thick sidewalls. I mean JESUS CHRIST MAN! WTF??
Why did that tire EXPLODE??
Today I got on the scale.
Last time I was bummed out when I saw I weighed 280. That was the exact weight I was before my quintuple heart surgery.
After surgery I had dropped to 250 and I don't know why but I should have kept going.
I stepped on the scale today and it says 290.
Two fucking ninety.
I never in my life weighed this much.
And I wonder how I fucking blew my tire..
That's it man.
This time for real.
FOR REAL.
I gotta lose my weight if I ever want to ride my bikes to Cherry Creek again.
I LOVE those rides and my bikes are I mean they are TUNED IN and NOTHING can go wrong mechanically except because I'm so heavy I could blow another tire.
I gotta lose some weight so I can live.
Things happen to my body man and I just shrug it off.
Yesterday all kinds of things were screaming at me. Not just my legs.
My heart was racing I could hear it in my head.
Everything became bright for a spell then it was okay.
I mean I just druged on and today I feel fine now.
But man.
What would have happened if I just dropped dead out there with no one around on that lonely bike trail.
My goal.
To lose 90 pounds by early next spring.
No set date.
I want to update this daily at night what I ate what excersise I did fucking EVERYTHING.
I need this.
I got myself some life insurance last week because I have this feeling sometimes I may not last that 10 year term.
I'm gonna see my doc next week and tell him all this.
He really needs to give me more attention.
Fucking HMO man.
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I just came back from New Mexico the clan all gathered together for July 4th everyone showed up it was quite nice.
It's all my in laws the ones that I thought didn't really like me but it's not like that.
This weekend I really felt like family.
So I got to thinking.
Married 22 years this month what was it that made me feel so negative towards my in laws in the past and why suddenly everyone seems way cool?
It only takes one in the clan. One to gossip about the ones they have a strong criticism against and one to spread this infection to the others.
Everybody has one in the clan.
Everyone.
And that one that does this makes you really believe it's everyone doing this to you.
Don't get me wrong. I loved my mother in law RIP she was the glue that bonded the clan together even after death she is still the glue and with that she is very much alive.
But then suddenly I have no feelings of contempt.
She used to joke and criticize whatever I did and I allowed that shit to get to me. And it made me angry at times.
But now when I look back she really was only kidding.
If I would have only just accepted all that as a joke and not let shit get to me maybe my relations with the clan may have been good the whole time.
Life is too short.
That's my life lesson.
Life is too short to be angry that someone in the clan got the better of you.
So what.
The clan means everything.
Without it life is less meaninful.
When we parted ways today many cried.
Many hugged my daughter because she's about to start her Naval career.
There's some real love here dawgs.
And I feel very lucky.
And that's just my inlaws.
Life is too short to hold a grudge.
Shit happens. So what.
Just wanted to share that.
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June 2004. Early evening.
I have been working hundred-hour weeks for months, and finally tonight I am no longer part of the 'critical path'. I'm having dinner with my three girls for the first time in twenty-seven weeks, and I bet I won't stay awake for more than a few minutes of it.
The drive home is only about eight miles, but I'm having trouble staying between the lines. As I look down the highway, the cars first go out of focus, then the music goes silent, then I'm jolted awake by my head drooping heavily onto my chest.
The adrenaline rush from knowing that I could have just died and taken the rush hour drivers with me lasts for less than a minute and I'm jolted awake again.
All I want to do is sleep. If I go to sleep for just a moment, there is a high degree of probability that my Bronco will stay in a straight line on this straight part of the highway and I'll wake up and finish driving home, refreshed and revitalized. Ready to be daddy when I get home.
Somehow, I have managed to pull into my driveway, and my body doesn't want to leave the vehicle. My brain has trouble resolving a world in sunlight. Things look too orange. There's too much detail. It's making my head hurt. I need my fluorescent lighting and bad coffee.
Suddenly the curtains pull back and my oldest daughter's face pushes against the window. She is smiling, I think, and screaming out the side of her mouth into the rest of the house. A moment later and my girls come out to see me.
My daughters are screaming 'daddy' and my wife is asking me why I didn't want to come in and see them. Sigh.
I open the door and lazily pour out of the vehicle and onto the ground, legs unused to supporting my weight. In a near-drunken stupor, I drag my feet one in front of the other until I'm in the house and on the couch.
My god, were the walls really this red? Was the ceiling this green? The visual cues are so overwhelming that I feel sick to my stomach.
All I want to do is sleep. I'm trying to listen to my girls. I think I might even be faking a smile. It's so hard to keep up with the conversation because I keep dozing off like I did back on the highway. All I want to do is sleep.
I've finally had all can take. "Girls, I'm sorry. I just have to get some sleep. I'm taking tomorrow off so we can spend some time together." The little ones seem to understand. Empathy must come more naturally to children.
"Let's leave daddy alone girls. He doesn't want to talk to us. He's on HIS couch."
Sigh.
Sigh.
Sleep.
I thought a nap would make me feel better, but I just feel hung over. It's like I'm walking through a viscous fluid that resists all movement in my body. My eyes are even affected.
My girls are in bed, so I'll kiss them good night.
Where's the wife? Oh, she's in bed already. "Good night."
"Good night."
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Good night. Hah. Why can't I ever sleep when I'm in a bed? I've been laying here for hours and can't quit working. How do these people just close their eyes and go to sleep...AND STAY THAT WAY?!?
How?
What the hell was that?
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June 2004. Early next morning. Change of tense.
My father and I had installed french doors on the back of the house, and I was never really happy with the way they locked. They were weak where the two doors came together in the middle and just a little amount of determination was required to push them open. Even though they were always deadbolted.
I actually asked myself what the sound was, but I knew it when I heard it. Someone had pushed the doors open.
I reached into my closet and silently grabbed my revolver, a Smith & Wesson .44mag, off the shelf. I stuck my head, shoulder, arm and revolver out into the dark hallway and peered down the long straight hall at the door that separated the kitchen from the hall.
Just as I heard two distinctly different voices whispering to each other to shut up, the hallway door opened and I saw the silhouette backlit by his accomplices flashlight. It was of a rather tall, large-framed person who was holding a long gun in his right hand.
I didn't even have to think.
Boom.
I didn't feel the concussion from the gun. I didn't hear it go off. All I saw was the flame discharge from the end of the weapon.
I had always seen in the movies that when you shoot someone with a large calibre handgun they were supposed to fly backward. That didn't happen at all.
The first thing I noticed was that whoever I just shot was no longer standing so now I had the flashlight shining right in my face. Thankfully, before I could recompose to shoot again, the accomplice fled out the way he had entered.
I ran down the hallway into the kitchen, stepping on the guy on the floor, kicking his shotgun away from him and looking out the back for the other guy.
All of a sudden I was blinded by a wash of lights in the room.
I turned around and was amazed to see that the guy on the floor had pushed himself against the wall with one hand, pushed himself up the wall somewhat, and had actually turned the light on.
As I watched him for a brief moment, I noticed that blood was pumping from his chest and his back.
Afraid that my girls would soon be coming down the hall, I screamed to them to stay in their rooms, but I got no response. I was hoping beyond hope that they were still asleep.
The guy fell back onto the floor and screamed at me. It was a dry, guttural scream that wasn't human. Not even remotely. He kept screaming and started pulling himself across the floor to me, and to his shotgun behind me.
It was just then that I noticed that he was unable to control his body from mid-chest down, and that that part of his body was shivering uncontrollably. And that he stank of piss and shit.
Thankfully, he was getting weaker, and as he did so, he appeared to sober.
After crawling about five feet, he just stopped. He just lay there, breathing shallow, hard breaths.
I thought he had started convulsing, when all of a sudden I realized he was crying. He was face down on the tile floor with one hand under his forehead. He was whispering amid his cries "momma. momma."
He repeated that over and over again. Then he seemed to remember that I was in the room. He looked at me and whispered "help me."
It was just then that I realized I hadn't called the police. I called them and told them I had shot an intruder and they said they'd send a unit over shortly. The operator hung up.
"PLEASE GOD! DON'T LET ME DIE!"
Fuck he scared the shit out of me.
He went into a rambling fit and made all sorts of promises to god that if he was allowed to live he'd change. He'd change. "GOD I SWEAR I'll change. please. please."
He started to cry again. Quietly at first. Then his sobs slowly rose to wailing. He wailed like a baby. For a moment. Then he went silent. His shallow breaths came more and more slowly. More and more shallow.
I suddenly realized that I had just killed a man. Never mind that he was in my house. With a gun.
He had been a human. Now he was nothing.
I had killed a man.
I hope none of you ever finds yourself in a similar situation. I know I did what was right. I'd do it again without hesitation.
But there really is an emptiness that never seems to go away. I stay awake thinking about it. Less often now than I used to, but it frequents my dreams occasionally and I live it all over again. Sometimes he pulls the trigger first. Sometimes I pull first, but my gun is empty, or misfires, or is not a gun at all.
I don't want to think about this anymore.
All I want to do is sleep.
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Told my buddy Matt about this last weekend. I guess I need to update all my most important friends...
Anyway, for many years I've had this... "growth," or something, on the lateral aspect of my right wrist. It's not particularly noticeable to the eye, but to the touch it's a raised, gristly, oblong area with the dermis over it scaly, dry and hardened compared to the surrounding skin.
Sometimes it gets very rough and raspy - like you could use it for sandpaper. Yidakina used to lotion it all the time - which didn't seem to do much good. She decided it was a psoriasis, or something, brought about by one, or a combination of, my medications. I always hoped I was growing a venomous spur there, like a platypus, to stab and poison my enemies with in a fight. Ha! Not that I gave it that much thought, though, really. Truth to tell, I have more serious body issues (external and internal), which are far more unsightly and uncomfortable than this little wrist nugget. I think you know what I'm talking about. And if you don't - thank your lucky stars, because the visual would probably make you throw up in your mouth a little. I would hate to be the cause of that happening. heh heh heh
Anyway, it's been a minor mystery for many years. Then a week or so back I was just sitting there daydreaming about... whatever (actually, I was thinking about muy thai fighters toughening their shins by slamming their legs into trees; and about the thick ass-callouses people who rode horseback all the time - like the Mongols, cowboys, etc - are supposed to develop, and it came to me that the "growth" really quite resembled a callous. But, what kind of activity would I be performing to form a callous there? .....? A-ha!
Eureka! It's all so obvious. Why didn't I fiigure it out before? It's an ass-wiping callous!
A callous? Yes. You see, I approach butt-wiping with much the same indelicate gusto as I do many other supposedly-precision physical tasks - say... adjusting my scrotum or pulling a rotten tooth. Many of my friends have seen me do both and they'll testify that these are not very pretty - and not very dainty - operations. Well, picture me red-faced, steely-eyed, teeth-gritted in a sumo squat with one hand thrusting back between my legs, apparently attempting to scratch between my shoulderblades. Of course, I need a fulcrum to get maximum leverage... I think you see where this is going (back on the mountain, I once scuffed all the paint off a wooden toilet seat - over a period of time, of course - in a neat groove doing this. I bet I could have eventually sawed it in half.).
At first I was taken a bit aback by this insight. I mean... who ever heard of a butt-wiping callous? It's almost embarassing as a concept, even. I tried looking it up on the internet - hoping against hope I wasn't some lone, butt-wiping freak. Maybe there are chatrooms for buttwipe callous people. Humorous and informative blogs and websites... Alas, Google, Dogpile, Ask Jeeves all shook their electronic heads in disbelief, having never heard of such shit, even with ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE WORLD at their disposal. What the fuck?
Then it occurred to me that this is a good thing, this callous. Why? Because it is incontrovertible proof that I, with much vigor and repetition, have been performing an act which my wife has - on more than one occasion, I might add - insinuated is beyond my intelligence, ingrained moral fiber and/or neuromuscular coordination.
In your Face, beeyotch! Where's YOUR ass-wiping callous? Huh? Huh? Don't have one? Then how do we know you even wipe at all? Nasty girl! At least I HAVE PHYSICAL PROOF that I do! Yeah, baby!
(insert superiority-flaunting victory dance here)
Guys - you know what I'm saying. Damned women just don't understand. It's always a bit frustrating when the "soft serve machine" won't quite shut off. Sure, at the all-you-can-cram-in-your-face buffet in the city they just stick a bowl under it to catch the drips, but bowls are uncomfortable - and noticeable - in levi's. And I'm sure I'm not the only one to practice oubliette origami by folding up a little paper "turd kotex" for those times when you KNOW the fat lady hasn't run out of breath in your ass - but you've run out of time (or reading material). And how often have we stood in the shower with one leg jacked up on the wall, twisting the showerhead to "engine grease removal" force (I took those fucking "low flow" cocksuckers out of all my plumbing the day I moved in, by God, so I have AWESOME water pressure in the shower, yo) and doing a Kafka-esque imitation of that carnival game where you try and shoot a stream into the the clown's little round mouth until his balloon brain explodes? Huh?
And Lord knows that, unless you're a fucking yoga master or ninja contortionist you gotta hang onto the rod/door frame at the top of the shower for balance, which means you are shooting Helen-fucking Kellar style at the "clown's mouth" while trying not to painfully batter the shit out of the "balloon of considerable delicacy" that's hanging there obstructing a straight shot...
Because, can't you just see it?... quote:
"In tonight's news, Channel 4's obligatory American-born Asian chick reporter tells us about a local tragedy. Here's Wendy Jo Yamafukayatayatayata..."
"Bluce, they say 8-out-of-10 home fatarities occur in the bathloom. And once more, the famiree shittah has become the "Prace Of Shameful Death" in this North Idaho community. Corrrrer.... Caollonuh... The guy who checks out dead people has reareased his leeport and says that this man (screen flashes on on picture of me gloating over a roasted hog a few years back) fell in his showah while attempting to plessure wash dingerbellies from his delliere, knocking himself unconscious. Unfortunateree prugging the dlain with his freshy carcass, he dlowned in 3 inches of dingerbelly water. When will these men rearn to use toiret papah collectree?..." etc.
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Or maybe that's just me...............
Btw - if you didn't throw up in your mouth earlier, feel free to do so now.........
I get carried away sometimes. Sorry. heh
Later,
Cherry
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I tell people here all the time how I dislike conservative families because they like to judge others and try to mend everyone towards their own values and the world would never ever be the best it can ever be until everyone adapts to their values. I've always felt this to be so wrong,that we are a free country,free to do whatever it is we desire as long as we are not hurting a fellow neighbor.
I may look down on them because in my mind I'm thinking the parents are shielding too much reality from them,censoring everything they watch to the point that when the real world hits them they may not handle life as they envision it to be. I also see extreme examples where the husband does near nothing for he makes the money and the wife does near everything. But it works for them I guess.
I don't like the conservative way.I have raised my kids to think freely. So far they are doing alright.
But during the day after my morning ride and doing errands while waiting at home for my host home guy to come home I turn on the TV and watch the Maury Povitch show. There I see young girls out of control and gets thrown in jail by this huge muscular black man till they cry their way to see what fools they have been. Then I see these moms with dudes that swear that baby is not theirs and dudes that actually believe they can fool a lie detector test.
The whole time I'm asking myself "Where do they get these people? And the answer is that these people wait in line to get on national tv to spew to the world what total fucking idiots they are with absolutely no consideration to what they are doing to their babies because when they grow up and get friends they may come over at their house and see their mom's proud Maury display to show that Mama was important enough to be on TV 12 years ago. The fact that she was looking for his daddy is besides the point.
Then there's Jerry Springer. If that's not any indication of what this world is turning into I don't know what is.
Steve Wilkos. Now there's a man after my own heart. I like his show for he's judgmental to his guests showing the world what this world has become and yet people still pick on him in viewer mail that he's too hard on his guests.
Right there it hit me.
Steve Wilkos is about as conservative as you can get.
I look at my own life and I could have fooled around but I didn't. I was always respectful of my elders. I have always addressed them as MR. or Mrs.,sir or mam. My wife of 21 years is the only woman I have ever been intimate with. In every respect I really should be conservative.
So why don't I say I am otherwise? Because I don't like how they try to change laws and succeed based only on their values.
And yet here I am. Secretly I DO want to see changes. But it's more extreme to me than the views of some that think Gay marriage should be outlawed.
It's far far different with me.
I think that there's nothing at all wrong with gay marriage but DIVORCE should be outlawed or at least be made incredibly hard to do.
I think that if your kid mis behaves you should not be afraid of having Social Services come knocking at your door over a false accusation. Parents need some leverage back.
I also think these reality shows need to be thrown away. My God MTV is not the way our children should live. Bring back fucking Little House on the Prairie. Shit.
I just needed to get that out. I personally will TRY not to look judgmental.
It seems when I can't see myself looking down at a conservative family,maybe I may be actually looking up at them.
I can't believe I actually just typed that.
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I think a storm is coming. I’m not any sort of economist, but recent events make me suspect that our economy is not in the best shape. Credit markets are still frozen, and things are a bit bleak. But still, that’s not the worst part. As has been pointed out by others, in the next 20-30 years, we are going to be facing an incredibly huge problem in the fact that the government is going to be bankrupt. We’re not going to be able to pay for Social Security, Medicare, and all of our other priorities much longer. It’s just not going to be possible with any rational projection of future growth.
So I think that bad stuff is coming down the pipe, and I don’t think there’s going to be any easy solution. And, as always seems to be the case when bad stuff hits, I think the people who are going to be in most danger of their lives and health will be the poor.
Now, I vary between libertarian, enviro-hippie, and filthy liberal, but in general, I am willing to accept that one legitimate role of government is to help keep people who are at the bottom of the economic ladder from starving or freezing to death. It seems to me as though providing a last net to try to catch folks who are falling fast is one part of a civilized society. And yes, I know that requires the government taking money away from folks and giving it to others who the first folks might not otherwise have given it to. I’m libertarian enough that that makes me uncomfortable, and liberal enough that I think that sometimes it may be justifiable anyway. I know it's strange to suggest that we need the government to help the poor through a crisis brought on by entitlement programs intended to help the poor--but I wouldn't have had nearly as much a problem with those entitlement programs in the first place if we had honestly acknowledged their cost and made the sacrifices needed to pay for them (or avoided them and allowed more economic freedom in the first place, maybe, but I digress.)
If we do indeed get smacked by a serious and ongoing economic problem, there are going to be a lot of people who will need help. I think that helping them would be a good idea; maybe something like the WPA. If we can give folks work while shoring up national infrastructure, then maybe that would be good in the end. However, something like that is going to be very, very expensive, and someone’s going to have to pay for it.
If we’re in an economic crisis brought about by irresponsible acquisition of debt, then I don’t see how borrowing huge sums of money to pay for a project like that is going to be effective in getting out from under the problem. Thus, the money will have to come from a combination of increased taxes and reductions in spending elsewhere. It will require substantial sacrifice on the part of the American people, in other words, and we’ll need a leader who can call for that sacrifice and persuade us to make it.
And I don’t think Obama will do that.
I think he’s capable of it. I admire his persuasive speaking; it’s one of the things I think best qualifies him to be President. But based on his enthusiastic support of the recent bailout bill, his statements about how we need to help keep folks who took loans they couldn’t afford from being foreclosed on, and his difficulty in identifying any area of his plan that he would be willing to cut if forced to do so by financial constraints, I don’t know if he can do it. If we hit really hard times, would President Obama be willing to ask people in the middle class (heck, even the lower middle class) to share in the sacrifice to help keep Americans alive during the storm? Would he be willing to raise taxes across the board—not just on the wealthy, but on everyone? Would he be willing to cut not only corporate welfare, but also federal science funding?
As much as I like Obama, and in general like his policies, I’m not convinced by his stances so far that he would be willing to call for real sacrifice from all Americans if it came to it. I fear that if the time came when we all had to take the hit to help protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us, Obama would not make the right call. I have no doubt that he would spend money to help the poor, but I think he would choose to get it from borrowing—and I don’t think we can afford to do that any more.
I’m not at all convinced that McCain would be any better about this, and he’d be even less persuasive if he did make the call. I could maybe—maybe—believe he would be slightly more willing to ask all Americans, wealthy and not, to share the load, but I don’t remember him showing any resistance to the bailout either.
I’ll probably still vote for Obama, because I think that he presents other good reasons to vote for him. But I am not convinced that when the bad stuff comes, he’ll be able to make himself unpopular by saying it’s time for us all to take the hit so that we can protect those who are the most vulnerable among us.
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I wrote this in a moment of irrational grumpiness about the proposed bailout.
A letter to Congress
September 22, 2008
How dare you?
How dare you propose that we shield these institutions from the consequences of their bad decisions?
How dare you even consider abusing the trust placed in you by your constituents--to use the resources they provide to serve the best public interest--by making sure that investors don't have to pay their gambling debts?
We are faced with a financial crisis of nearly unprecedented magnitude. There is much investigation yet to be done, and I have no doubt that future economists and historians will produce many theses and dissertations on its causes and effects. What is becoming clear, though, is that our banks are crippled by the fact that they are in possession of assets whose value is largely unknown, but increasingly doubtful. These assets were purchased by these banks in the hopes that they could make money from them. That's investment--and investment is always a gamble.
Folks, gambles don't always pay off. And when you make a bad bet, you lose your money. That's the way it works. That's why you think carefully before you invest, do your research, and take risks that you can safely take on. Hopefully, your bets pay off more often than they fail.
What kind of message are you sending a company when you make sure that they don't have to face the consequences for bad decisions?
We've been told that we can't allow these companies to fail, that they are too important. Well, when we have individual companies which are too important to our economy to be allowed to fail--when we have to rescue them, no matter what sort of stupid, reckless bets they have made--then I say there is something terribly wrong with that economy. I say that an economy built on that foundation cannot, and should not, be allowed to continue. If the price of keeping this economy standing in its current form is to shift hundreds of billions of dollars from taxpaying citizens to the institutions which made bad bets so that they can make more bets in the future, then I say LET THEM FALL.
There are many Americans who made some very poor decisions about buying homes. That's a sad and terrible thing, and it's going to cause a lot of pain. What, if anything, to do about that is another story, and one we will have to deal with. My gut says that if you lie about your income to take out a loan you can't pay back to buy a house, then you are going to lose that house. If you take out a loan which you know you can't repay, assuming that the value of your house will rise in time to sell it and make a profit, then guess what? You just made an investment, and a risky one at that. You made a bet, and you lost. Personal responsibility for bad decisions is just as important as corporate responsibility. But those Americans are already paying for their decisions. Millions of households are in turmoil because they are losing their homes. They're facing that loss already. And now the time has come for the banks which made those loans without seriously investigating whether the borrower could pay--and the institutions which encouraged that lending--and the institutions who bought those packaged loans hoping to profit from them--to face up to the fact that they, too, made a bad bet. They made a bad investment.
And you are even considering taking money from the citizens of this country to make sure that they don't have to pay for their bad bet?
How dare you?
We need to deal with this problem in its real form, and that is that we are living beyond our means. For a decade, we've been borrowing from the future. "Look at the growth," we're told. "Look at the wonderful prosperity!"
Folks, it's not growth. It's not growth, and it's not prosperity, when what you're doing is building houses on air and debt. For a decade, we've been climbing higher and higher on a ladder behind a curtain.. Well, now the curtain has been pulled away, and guess what? Our ladder is made of drinking straws and chewing gum. America just got the first call from the debt collectors. It's time to pay up.
We have been told stories about the legendary "greatest generation". We've lionized them for their courage. We honor them because, when we faced great danger, they stood up and put themselves on the line. They made a sacrifice to fix a problem with the world.
We have a problem now. There are several ways to deal with it, some of which seem to require little cost to us. But here's the problem: those methods are tricks. Illusions. Lies. Those methods are the same sort of false solutions which led us to the problem we face today. They simply shift the burden to those who will come after us.
The time has come to stand up. The time has come for us to make a sacrifice. Do we have the courage? Do we have the ability to take the hit, so that our descendants don't have to? Can we make the sacrifice, and face the consequences of our irresponsibility--and that of those who came before us? Do we have that courage?
Or will we make sure that our grandchilden curse our names, as a generation of fools and cowards, who saw the problem and hid our faces in fear and shame?
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FROM http://www.jpbutton.com/?p=551
Talking Points - BlueGartr Forums
BlueGartr, 和英討議/Talking Points
The results are in! Forums users at Blue Gartr submitted a plethora of questions to be answered by Japanese players. The ten that were ultimately chosen ranged from player opinions on JP Only comments, the benefits/drawbacks of mixed servers, and the importance of Skillchains for today’s adventurers. Plus, will the never-ending debate of Adaman Hauberk’s ambiguous hue be put to rest? Read on to find out!
For the first go at this experiment, ten questions were posted to Japanese BBS along with an explanation. There were many willing participants of all opinions, from people who welcomed the chance to play with foreigners, to those who seemed… less than thrilled. I tried to make sure everyone got their say, despite what they thought.
The anonymous nature of their BBS precludes me from posting any of their names or servers — I simply don’t know any of them! They say this is a strict rule so that people will react based on post content, rather than what handle posted it. It’s like Martin Luther King’s dream come to life. This is probably why they never mention any names, especially in the first question, and simply answer yes or no, with a little explanation.
I tried to keep a mix of serious and silly questions, so I hope you are amused by their reaction to some of our NA “in-jokes.” Still, there’s a lot of interesting stuff, and more than a thing or two to learn.
As a final note, occasionally respondents would use some English or fake Auto-Translate. In such cases their English is presented verbatim within
for English and
{ these marks } for Auto-Translate.
Enjoy, and thanks for reading!
Are there any famous (or infamous) foreign players for the Japanese?
* There probably are, but without asking people from every server, you can’t really know if they’re famous everywhere.
* There aren’t really any “infamous” foreigners. There are, however, several 害人 (foreigners that harass people) and they can make me shy away from NA players. (Elmer Point: 害 gai means damage or harm, while the usual 外 gai means outside.)
* There are. They make good targets in Campaign.
* Not me, but the people I play with hate all NA players. They put them on the same level as Chinese RMT. Germans, on the other hand, they like.
* Any Chinese player, , but not really any specific person. There are some people we Japanese find kind of weird.
* No one I know.
* Yes.
* I don’t know.
* People in can be famous, and people with bad manners can also become “famous.”
* I don’t know anyone in particular.
* I don’t care, so I have no idea.
* There are a few people where I play, but no one .
* There’s a foreigner LS on myself that’s well-known for members that generally harass and disturb people. However, concerning people with a reputation for being good and likable, there isn’t anyone among the foreigners or Japanese.
* Yup.
* No. Probably the language barrier keeps word of their reputation from really spreading.
* I wonder if there are any on my server… but that’s not to say we don’t have our share of malicious foreigners. There’s a lot of “Hey, that guy just MPKd.” ”Oh, it’s because he’s a foreigner.” I get the feeling many foreigners don’t consider how their actions affect the reputation of their friends. (I understand there are many good foreign players too.)
* I don’t know.
* I can’t give any specific names. There are some, but I usually Blacklist and ignore them.
* I don’t know of any foreigners that are well-known across all servers.
* Nope. A while back spam shouters were well-known, though. I think a lot of NA got blacklisted for doing that. (Elmer Point: I wonder if he’s thinking of casinos?)
* There may be people famous in some place, but I’m not really interested, so who knows.
* There’s a HNMLS like that on my server. You’ll hear “not those foreigners again” a lot.
* I haven’t heard of any infamous foreigners, but I know this guy who is well-known for always dancing around in a subligar.
Like I mentioned before, Japanese boards usually require that people remain anonymous when posting. This avoids having discussions degenerate into pointless name-calling and accusations. It seems like this mentality carried over in the question itself, and they simply treated it as a “yes” or “no” question, rather than mentioning any specific people. They also focused a little more on the infamous than the positive side of fame. Due to this, the first set of answers were somewhat negative, as people tried to recall experiences that were bad enough to generate infamy.
How do you feel about English-speaking players attempting to speak Japanese. (i.e. Using limited Japanese phrases, saying “w” etc.)
* It makes a really, really good impression, more than people who rely on the TAB-key or will only use their own language.
* As a JP player, I think it shows they are friendly towards Japan. They are making a strong effort to reach out.
* It’s a noble effort, but if they can’t speak well it’s annoying.
* It impresses me. I’m happy when they try to improve communication.
* It’s an incredibly good feeling. But sometimes seeing a random “w” thrown in there is confusing.
* It’s a very good thing, I think. (However, there are many Japanese even that hate stuff like “w” so be careful.)
* I think it makes a good impression on a large number of Japanese players. I wonder how it compares with people who speak broken, baby English?
* I love it. I also like people who use simple English.
* It makes me think, “This guy’s really trying hard,” in a good way.
* I feel good. Happy.
* I feel a lot better towards someone like that.
* There’s a generally distaste for “w,” but people who try to speak Japanese, even poorly, make a good impression.
* I don’t think anything in particular when people have a conversation in Japanese. However, I do like when people make the effort to improve communication between Japanese and English speakers.
* I really like when people learn some basic, daily phrases.
* It makes me feel good. I also try my best to chat in simple English.
* It’s a good impression. However, I don’t even like it when Japanese use “w,” so foreigners using it just bugs me. That’s because it isn’t just 笑い (laugh/smile), but also 嘲笑 (scoff/sneer). Usually, this ulterior meaning is the one that transfers over. I can’t speak for everyone, but that’s how I see it.
* I find them charming. It’s a nice impression. Still, if I don’t have a grasp on how much Japanese they really know, it can wear me out trying to compensate.
* It really makes me feel good. Seeing Japanese stuff like “w” or “^^” makes me feel the same way. Also, I always try my best to talk in English.
* I’ve played FFXI for 5 years and I’ve never met a person like that.
* Happy, I think. I also try my best to respond in kind.
* Happy. They seem to have a good attitude and willingness to compromise. If there Japanese is bad, I don’t laugh or anything. Only a cold-hearted Japanese person would laugh at that.
* Even if it’s just a few simple words, I love it. Like .
* It impresses me more than Japanese people who just brush off trying to communicate with {I don’t speak any English.} or {Please use the Auto-Translate function.}
* It really puts me at ease, like I can be more comfortable around this guy.
* I’m really moved by people who try their best to speak with roman characters, and it shows a lot of initiative. However, people who use web translators often come out with weird, incomprehensible Japanese, and it would actually be easier to just talk in English. ^^;
There was an overwhelming consensus here for the support of foreigners using Japanese. Save for but a few respondents, practically everyone said they appreciated even the slightest amount of Japanese. This should come as good news for many players, as a simple “yoroshiku” after joining a JP party, or “arigatou” after receiving a Cure seems to break the ice and brighten their spirits. If you want to start off on the right foot, just get a few basic phrases under your belt.
I was also pleased to find their shared hatred of the ever-prevalent “w.” If you can type Japanese kanji, using ‘emi’ in brackets (笑 produces the same effect.
Why is using /check considered rude? For English-speaking players it is a fairly innocuous action.
* In Japan, being stared at by other people is rude and ill-mannered, so it must be a cultural difference.
* In Japanese, it’s saying you fix a start upon someone, so maybe that nuance doesn’t transfer over. (You can make this invisible through the filters, though.)
* The Japanese phrase isn’t so pleasant, and having it on by default sucks.
* For me it’s like someone just took it upon themselves to rummage through my stuff.
* I think it’s the fact that someone in the middle of town is just staring at you up and down, and closely examining your necklace, rings and everything else, which is creepy. The /check command technically says “stares fixedly.” Japanese people feel it’s a question of manners.
* I don’t know about everyone individually, but the Japanese text message is just no good. ”Player stares at you fixedly.”
* A lot of people feel the message displayed when /check is used gives an inappropriate impression.
* /check itself isn’t so bad, but it’s annoying when people do it over and over!
* The message that displays for /check is unpleasant. It’s Square Enix’s fault.
* Staring so intently at someone is pretty poor manners. If the message was different, it probably wouldn’t be a problem.
* It’s because of Square Enix’s message that it has such a bad reputation.
* In my opinion, it’s like some beggar coming up looking for something. Any way you look at it, it’s a bad message. I filter it though, so I don’t really notice. I also heard a rumor that all the constant examining can be a burden on the server.
* I don’t care either way. This has been a problem amongst Japanese for a long time. Actually, there are still those who hate it, but the amount that simply don’t care is increasing. Those who can’t stand it claim they don’t like being aware that people are looking at them. Recently, most people will just tell them to ignore it and put on the chat filter.
* Me and my friends don’t care and just use it whenever. Many people think it’s selfish to examine someone and then ask them for help right after.
* The Japanese translation says “stares fixedly,” so it’s a bad feeling, but if it was like “Player A looks at Player B” or something it wouldn’t be an issue at all.
* “Player A stares fixedly at Player B” is bad wording in Japanese. That fixedness just implies he’s intently looking for something. It’s the same reason Japanese react negatively to appearing on . It’s like observing an individual’s actions. The “street view” service recently started in Japan also caused an uproar.
* It’s a cultural difference. Japan is concerned with shame, while Europe and America focus on crime and sin. Japanese are very concerned about how people see them. Also, the text displayed for is bad. It’s like stalker-ish. Doing it once can be bad, but 4 or 5 times is like harassment.
* In Japan, it’s just rude to stare with no concern others. I think that’s the problem with the message that is displayed.
* Square Enix’s emote has a bad Japanese translation I think. It feels something like .
* Looking in a bazaar or just glancing at equipment is no big deal. However, people who use it just to badmouth you, or bug you to trade with them, or other such nonsense, make it feel like harassment.
* In Japanese, it expresses rudeness. Some people consider repeated /checking to be .
* I personally don’t find it to be rude, so I can’t really say. Still, I know there are a lot of people who don’t like it, so I never /check without saying something first.
* It implies that someone is glaring at you, so many people don’t like the meaning. If you ask beforehand to view someone’s equipment, they probably won’t say no.
Basically, everyone agreed one main points: It’s poor manners because the message Square Enix chose makes it come across as such. In some cases, I still think people take it too seriously, and there were a few respondents who shared that sentiment. Asking each and every person for /check permission is pretty ridiculous, but extending that courtesy to party/alliance members isn’t so bad. It seems like most Japanese people have gotten over it though, and their answers here are more explanations rather than their personal excuses.
Square Enix has mentioned many times that they are proud of their servers being unique, in the sense that many people from around the world are on the same server, instead of split up by region, and can communicate with the Auto-Translate feature.
Do you feel that this was a success or a failure? Do you think that mixing regions on each server was a failure? If you could choose, would you choose a JP only server?
* Everyone probably has a different opinion on this, so I don’t know what to say. Personally, I would have been happier if they prepared both mixed servers and regional servers.
* Square Enix is alone in being proud of this. Many Japanese would select a JP server if they could, I think.
* It’s clearly a huge failure. I still want to use a segregated server. We’re not s here for your assistance.
* I think it was just for Square Enix’s self-satisfaction.
* I think Vana’diel was ruined when foreign players came. Mixing servers was probably Square Enix’s biggest failure. The Auto-Translate function is incomplete, and the necessary phrases we petition for never get added. If there were region-specific servers, I would no doubt choose a Japanese-only server.
* It was both a success and a failure probably. The Auto-Translate is experimental, but it has way too few phrases. Personally, I would probably want to switch if a Japanese-only server were available.
* It’s not that the JP-only era was free from problems, but foreign players made things comparatively much more difficult with because it was so hard to understand each other. Many people simply gave up trying. For me, being on a mixed server isn’t a problem though.
* I wanted them to make Japanese servers, English servers and mixed servers.
* I think it was an interesting experiment. I don’t have the chance to use English day-to-day, so it helps me study. I like talking to different people with different viewpoints.
* If possible, they should make it so you can choose between, Japanese, mixed, and US/EU servers!
* If you’re good at English it’s all right, but many people would select a JP server because it’s easier. I think there are many players who want to avoid getting laughed at for bad grammar and such.
* I’ve met some good people, but overall I think it failed. I would mainly like a Japanese-only server.
* Except for early/late login times, I never really play with NA parties. The language barrier is just too great. I don’t mind leaving friends behind, so I would like a Japanese-only server. Mixing all these nationalities seems like a good idea, but they were too idealistic, I think.
* If it’s either “success” or “failure,” I’d have to say failure. However, that’s not to say many people of different languages playing together is a failure, but that Square Enix dropped the ball here. I don’t mind mixed servers.
* I can’t really say. We all have different values and views, and there are fun things and unpleasant things about mixed servers.
* I’ve been playing since the service launched, and at that time, Square Enix never said they were going to begin service for NA players. It would have been different it they mentioned that from the beginning. If they made JP servers, even now, I would want to move. Even if it was expensive.
* With all the people that seem to be dissatisfied, I’d say it was a failure. However, I don’t agree with people that say, “Oh, if foreigners weren’t here, things would be great,” because then you have those Chinese RMT. Blaming foreigners is being unreasonable.
* It depends on the person. Personally, I would like separate servers. I think the consensus is there should be Japanese, mixed and English servers.
* I think it would have been better if people could choose to play with other countries or with just people from their own. I’d choose a mixed server.
* I think Japanese are pretty narrow-minded. In contrast, NA are a little out of control. As an experiment, it’s been pretty interesting. The end result wasn’t as good, I think.
* There’s a lot of dissatisfaction currently. Still, in the interest of being able to understand everyone and get things done easier, I’d choose a Japanese-only server.
* Square Enix just did this to boost their reputation. Many Japanese see it as a failure. Actually, once the NA version went on sale, there was an explosion of Japanese player cancellations. If I could have selected a Japanese-only server from the beginning, I would have done so.
* I think playing on a mixed server has been an interesting experience for me, but I would still select a Japanese server if I could.
* It’s a great thing for people who want to learn other languages or experience other cultures. For me, I’d choose a Japanese-only server if I could.
* I can definitely tell you it was a failure. After foreigners came in, all the good people quit. Many bad habits pervaded the Japanese community. Still, I think it would have degenerated like this either way. It’s a little late to make language-specific servers now, but I would go to Japanese-only server.
* I’m not bothered by being on a server mixed with foreigners. That’s because I like learning about all the cultural differences. Also, it helps to have a full population no matter what time you log on.
Ouch. This reminds of that joke about pet lovers. ”Oh, your cat loves you? OK, open the door to your apartment and see what happens.”
“Oh, you have Japanese friends? Open a JP-only server and see what happens.” And off rush 99% of the Japanese population. Now, it looks pretty bad, but let’s consider some things. Foreigners didn’t necessarily invent bad behavior, but thousands of English-speaking players flooding into a Japanese game kind of screwed up the dynamic. It was interesting to note that apparently Square Enix did not initially alert people of this beforehand. While there are some particularly cranky respondents, I get the feeling that the language barrier bothers Japanese players more than the foreigners themselves.
When I was in middle school, I had to choose a new language for the first time: French or Spanish. I chose French to stick with my girlfriend, but didn’t really care one bit for French. Now, if there was anything more powerful than a 486 back then, I might have enjoyed an online game after school. If I had the choice to just sit back and play in English, or be surrounded by Frenchmen babbling in the confounding language I just suffered through in school, I’d think, “Screw that, EN ONLY!” (No offense to Frenchies, just projecting a 12 year old mentality here).
Anyway, just trying to say the reasoning for their frustration may be more based on the language than on the actions of foreign players. You can read more about it below in the JP Only question, where I’m sure I’ll have to play apologist again.
Have you learned anything about the NA culture that you didn’t know before? Perhaps a polite/impolite gesture/phrase that seemed innocent to you? (e.g. we see /check as innocent, and JP find it rude)
* Personally, I’ve done foreign study and home-stays, so I knew a lot going in. Recently, there’s been a lot of foreign students and workers coming into the country, so I think cultural awareness is really growing.
* After the NA players came in, one weird thing that changed was no more lotting.
* When I played Ultima Online on an NA server, I didn’t hate communicating with NA players.
* Nothing culturally, but I thinking my basic English skills have really improved.
* NA don’t act like gentlemen. They are selfish, rude and perverts. I have a female character and have had to call GMs about sexual harassment many times. They demand PLs and Raises and Teleports, and if you don’t answer they start cursing you out. They irresponsibly camp on top of other parties. Also, people who speak English but put up the “J” tag disgust me.
* When asking someone for something, Japanese try to consider the other person’s situation, while NA players think more of there own needs. Also, if they get turned down, they get very persistent and demanding.
* They build parties differently than I’d expect.
* I have many English-speaking friends, so I think it’s more of a person-by-person problem. I don’t like foreigners that are selfish, and it’s rude to simply thrust your requests upon someone without prefacing them politely.
* The way they switch people in and out of parties. (Disbanding quickly is so annoying). Also, the lot rules.
* I’ve only just become familiar with NA through FFXI, so I can’t answer.
* I don’t know. I would like to know what they find rude.
* I was surprised at all the begging.
* The time difference. Also I got good at making basic English conversation.
* Personally, I’ve had fun learning stuff like “Welcome back” is and “thank you,” which has improved my English. Not to mention a fair amount of slang…
* I had never seen English chat, so it was good to see that.
* There seems to be many people who think they can get anything with money. For example, I was in Windurst and I told this guy my Home Point was somewhere else, so I couldn’t teleport him. He offered money, but I refused, and he got really persistent. He told me I should just change my Home Point. What nerve…
* There’s no equivalent to “yoroshiku onegaishimasu” to greet someone at the beginning of a party! I was also surprised when seeing and then . So is supposed to express “Thank you for waiting for me” in that case?
* I learned some English shorthand, like and . Also some culture. Unfortunately, I ended up with more of a negative image than a positive one.
* There are parties when people afk for long periods of time, members switch in and out constantly, or perhaps the party just disbands before they assemble.
* Many things, but nothing really useful outside of the game. If anything, I understand just how big a wall there is between our different languages and cultures.
* Chat abbreviations.
* I never knew about those sideways emoticons. The first time I saw it, I thought it was a typo.
* I get the feeling that Japanese players go for long parties that steadily build experience points, while parties focus on getting the most experience points out of a single battle, no matter how long it takes.
Some more… frank responses, especially that one near the top that makes me wonder if FFXIFlux is studying abroad right now. The respondent that mentioned the lack of proper party greetings made an interesting point though. In Japanese, there are basic phrases that go before and after requests and activities. In some cases we have equivalents, like “Excuse me, but” or “Sorry to bother you.” In others, we don’t. We could say, “Welcome to the party!” but most people just give a “hey” or “sup” when adding new members.
In the same vein, when English-speaking shout, it’s usually direct and to the point. Japanese always apologize for their shout, sometimes before and after. Neither way is necessarily “wrong,” but from each side, the other side’s way can appear wrong.
Do you ever utilize English websites such as BlueGartr, FFXIAH, etc for foreigner research and opinions? Do the Japanese have a large end-game community forum, similar to foreign players using BlueGartr?
* I don’t really go to any foreign sites. I think there may be some high-level forums.
* I don’t use any foreign sites, personally. If there are any high-level boards… I don’t know them.
* I get enough from Japanese boards, so I don’t use foreign ones. We have some boards devoted to battle strategies.
* I’ve looked at several times, but basically I don’t use any.
* I don’t really view any foreign sites, but now that you mention it, isn’t a Japanese site? We do have specific boards for high-level stuff, jobs and battle strategies.
* I’ve looked at . As for our forums, we don’t have ones aimed at high-level players so much as ones that only high-level players still post on.
* I don’t. I get everything I need already.
* I use . Besides that, I’ve never been shown another place to visit.
* I’m pretty much fine with just Japanese boards. As for high-level sites… I would say use either here or 2chan’s NetGames board.
* I sometimes use .
* I don’t know English, so I don’t use any. We have them here too in Japan.
* No, I get all the info I want to know from Japanese sites. For high-level forums, there is NetGames or here.
* (I don’t use it now) . Like me, many Japanese used to use , but with the recent rise in hacking, they have mostly stopped. I use a lot, but I don’t know of any other Japanese who do. I use it because 1) It has a lot more detailed information than Japanese sites, 2) It’s more objective than Japanese sites. I don’t know about high-level boards, but there are some forums that discuss battle strategies.
* With all the account hacking going on, I have no interest in viewing foreign sites.
* Nope, I have no idea what is.
* I’ve been using since back when they only displayed in English. Many Japanese felt it was useful, but some were upset with its privacy violations. When it started displaying Japanese, everyone was extremely grateful. It was such a nice thing for the site to do. Still, there are some who still demand the site be shut down because you can sneak a peek at the activities of others. We don’t have high-level sites, but rather sites for specific subjects regarding the game.
* I use a lot. I don’t know about any other sites besides that one. For a high-level site, do you mean one with lots of activity, or one that deals with hunting HNM? For the former, check out NetGames I guess… the latter would be here.
* Previously, I used . Now, because of all the hacking, I don’t anymore. There are boards for each server, but I think NetGames functions as a high-level forum.
* Yes, there are.
* . After the account hacking problem I stopped using it.
* Nope, because I don’t understand English.
* I don’t use any. I just use here and whatever other sites people recommend to me.
* I used for a period of time, but recently I don’t. I don’t know of any others.
* I don’t. I’m satisfied with what I use now.
* I use the , but community sites are too hard to read, so I don’t use those.
I liked this question because I didn’t have to feel horrible after reading the answers. It seems like FFXIAH is a clear favorite, most likely for the sheer utility of the site. Having the whole database in Japanese now doesn’t hurt either. What does hurt though, apparently, is the hacking issue. It was pretty clear that account hacking has caused a scare, and any unfamiliar sites have been scratched off the Japanese favorite lists.
Is the Adaman Hauberk blue or purple? This debate has raged across NA forums since the dawn of time.
* I don’t think there’s anything to debate here, but… I guess it depends on how you look at it and if you have colorblindness or not.
* In my eyes, it looks to be ultramarine. However, everyone could have their own opinion so it’s pointless to debate.
* What color? Looks blue to me…
* It depends on the specific hue one sees, but I think it’s blue.
* Grey. Blue is like Noble’s Tunic. Purple is like Dragoon AF. I only see grey for Adaman Hauberk.
* Ultramarine.
* I can see why some would say purple, but really, Adaman Hauberk is blue. lol
* I see a strong blue color.
* It looks blue.
* Dark blue or blue. There’s no purple there.
* I think it’s a navy blue.
* It’s hard to express its exact color, but if it’s between blue and purple, I say blue. Personally, I would specify it as ultramarine.
* I think it’s ultramarine. .
* I can’t definitively say its color since it changes based on the color settings of your T.V., but I would go with ultramarine.
* Purple.
* Navy blue (some bluish color). I wouldn’t think for a second that it’s purple.
* In Japan there’s no such debate about the color of Adaman Hauberk, so I’d guess it’s some sort of joke. It’s funny the things foreigners focus on (meaning I’m really interested in it). I don’t know about them, but most Japanese would classify Adaman Hauberk as being blue. Still, depending on the lighting, the color can subtly change so it’s tough to define it with a single word. Looking at a picture of Adaman Hauberk, I can see how some debate would stem from such a color. lol
* I think it’s ultramarine.
* Purple.
* A strong blue. I figure individual differences like monitor settings, room lighting and such started this nonsense. It’s the color of Adaman, isn’t it?
* Blue. To be more specific, ultramarine. It has a little purple mixed in, but really is a deep, ocean blue. I’ve never seen this discussed amongst Japanese. It can depend on the person, but I doubt there are many Japanese who would say its purple.
* Ultramarine. It’s a type of blue.
* I’d have to say it’s a bluish-purple. Between blue or purple, I think it’s closer to blue.
* If it’s blue or purple, then I say bluish-purple. A blue with some purple in it.
* Indigo. It looks like indigo-colored dye, and I think that color describes this perfectly.
18 blues, (with 8 specifically for ultramarine), 2 purples, 2 on the fence, an indigo, and 1… grey? You know, I always agreed with that one guy who pointed out that Adaman Hauberk is probably the color of Adaman — blue! Still, it’s kind of a joke question, and something that was fun to share with them. When you can share in the ridiculousness of a debate like this, it gives you something to laugh at together. I wonder how they feel about Warcry merits…
What is your main reason behind having “JP Only” or “English No Thanks” in your search comment? Is it because you prefer to speak in Japanese, or is it a problem with the way foreigners act?
* I want to speak in Japanese… I want to play with Japanese players… I don’t like their play style… etc etc, there can be a bunch of reasons.
* I want to play in a language I can understand. Other reasons include not being able to get my feelings across, not being familiar with their battle strategies, and the general disarray the language gap causes.
* Because I don’t like foreigners. They , they logout on a whim, and they don’t listen to battle advice.
* It depends on the person, but it’s mostly due to the following reasons: Inability to communicate battle plans or having a previous bad experience in a party with foreigners.
* Many people won’t join a party with foreigners because they won’t understand the specifics of where to camp and how to perform within the party. Japanese are required to learn English, and many of them can speak enough to accomplish this, but they log in to relax and have fun, not struggle with a language they’re no good at. Most Japanese understand that the TAB-key phrase {I don’t speak any English.} really means, “I speak English, but I can’t get all the little details and nuances, so I won’t speak it.” Also, when service began, people joined this under the impression it would be Japanese-only. So when Square Enix added in English users and blindsided us with English and the TAB-key… a lot of people strongly felt they had been tricked. I don’t like being the only one not able to express myself in a party that doesn’t speak Japanese.
* The biggest reason for me is not being able to alert people in case of an emergency. In case of a link, there’s no way to quickly say, “RDM sleep that mob and let’s take down this one first.”
* If you’re asking for a reason, it’s because I don’t like the way foreigners act.
* There’s a variety of reasons, like not knowing the language, or having had a bad experience.
* In my case, it’s because I want to speak in Japanese.
* Like most people have said, it’s either “I can’t understand details,” or “I had a bad experience.” For me, it’s the latter. Japanese might not understand English fully, but we can tell when people throw around racist and sexist talk.
* English is complex. I understand it, but there’s so much I can’t say. I want to have smooth communication with my party, but I also want to become friendlier with foreign players.
* I think more than in the interest of mutual understanding, there are many Japanese who have had bad experiences with mean players. Besides that, two big reasons are probably: “I’m playing to have fun, not struggle,” and “I want to get the most out of my monthly fee.”
* There’s a difference in party structure and flow. Japanese like to go for 3 or more hours, while parties often break quickly. When discussing camp, or how to deal with links in emergency situations, having two different languages just makes things difficult. Although some people genuinely can’t understand English, I think others use it as an excuse to avoid troubling situations.
* The cultural and language differences are huge. English ability is not something the Japanese can be proud of. Regarding the language wall, as a nation of people who strive for perfection, there’s a feeling of “If I can’t say it perfectly, I won’t say it,” which I think is dumb. As for the cultural wall, I think the biggest issue is play style. You often have people call replacements and leave, using a “revolver style” (a term I just made up myself) party play, which Japanese feel is disrespectful to other party members. Also, there are instances where the replacement arrives only to have the party disband without killing a single monster. This just leaves a bad impression of foreigner parties. Actually, there are quite a few Japanese who like the “revolver style” parties. However, in Japanese parties they very rarely ever use it.
* I’ve come to dislike foreigners based on the people I’ve met. It’s difficult to have a conversation, parties aren’t stable… but most others just simply don’t understand enough English.
* I like when try to chat a little in Japanese, but I think the vast majority only use English. They can also be very self-centered, and I don’t like that.
* I don’t have the language ability to communicate well, and the cultural differences between foreigners, who act on their personal whims, and Japanese, who are considerate for their fellow players, just bugs me and makes me not want to join any parties! That’s what I’m expressing with JP only.
* In my case, it’s 70% wanting to be able to talk, and 30% bad past experiences that make me put up JP only. It’s tough to communicate detailed information or coordinate during emergencies. There’s also the cultural differences, where foreigners conduct themselves in ways that Japanese people do not like. As a personal example, I hate when foreigners camp on top of me. Japanese players search and ask first, but it seems many foreigners just plop down on top of you and try to break up your party.
* I think it’s because of the communication issue. Our languages and ways of thinking are different, and that’s hard to reconcile.
* If you want to know, many Japanese don’t use to separate the races. I think it’s like how you find it difficult to understand why we don’t like . I’ll let other people elaborate more on this.
* There’s one of two reasons. They are either prejudiced, or they don’t want to deal with the aggravation. For me, when doing an important mission or something, I try to avoid foreigner parties. Often times we all just end up leveling down.
* I don’t like the way foreigners act. Japanese see many English-speakers as selfish and rude. Of course, this is because our cultures and ways of thinking are different. So instead of getting into quarrels, I just avoid the situation altogether.
* There’s a strong majority that just want to speak in Japanese.
* There’s many reasons that I think stem from Japanese players and foreign players having different values and play styles. There’s also people who don’t want to join based on a bad experience they had.
* It’s self-defense. The best tank I ever partied with was a foreigner. Also, I speak pretty good English. But if I’m doing something where the stakes are high, I’ll put up .
* I don’t like it when I can’t communicate effectively. There are many Japanese who can have an English conversation, but just can’t keep up with all the reading and writing. I think this is the fault of the Japanese education system, and not players. In level-up parties, I can usually work well with foreigners. If I’m doing a or a mission, it’s just too hard to communicate all the details, and I’d rather party with Japanese players.
I thought this section would come out much worse. There were a few “gaijin-haters” snuck in there, but overall it seems people would rather just play the game than run laps to the dictionary. Like my example before, I can certainly see why people would want to simply play in their own language.
Another interesting thing that came up again was that Square Enix didn’t initially tell people about its plans for an NA release. I started on Gilgamesh back in January 2005, and the server gradually became the de facto home for French players. They didn’t exactly receive a warm welcome when NA players caught on to that. I wonder how this survey would look if SE provided EN, JP and mixed servers. I wonder if a question about JP Only would even exist…
They really seem to harp on us for rudeness, and while there certainly are a fair amount of NA/EU players that need their monitors to explode in their faces, I think they are being a little harsh. I’ve been in Japan a long time, and there are some rude-ass people here. You can see Japanese all the time being rude to each other. I think it’s just that this concept of politeness is just hammered in from an early age. Use this word for someone better than you, use that word for someone worse than you… say please, thank you, bow this many degrees downward… In America we have a much more subjective idea of what’s “polite” that varies based on situation. Japanese have a much more collectively defined idea of politeness, so if something doesn’t match, it’s considered rude.
Do JP players still use Skillchain+Magic Burst in their parties or do they TP burn like most NA/EU players do? Do you miss the SC/MB days?
* When discussing the battle plan, camp, enemy type/strength and such go into whether we use SC/MB or not.
* Battle tactics can change based on level and enemy, but I don’t so much Magic Bursting recently.
* has gone out of use in Japan too, but it seems like players have a lot of trigger-happy Black Mages.
* It’s decided based on party makeup and the enemy. There are times where you use Magic Bursts and times when you don’t.
* Skillchain and are almost no used at all anymore, but there are some Samurai that are skilled enough to make them without it having to be planned out.
* My BLM is only 40, so I don’t , but sometimes people just Skillchain on a whim. For level monsters they are used more often… or should be.
* I haven’t entered a level-up in almost 2 years, but I love skillchain and . The current trend of play is kind of sad.
* and skillchains have gone out of style, but there are still some camps where BLM is pretty strong.
* Nowadays, Black Mages normally don’t even get invited to parties. People just make Black Mage-only parties.
* They’re not really done in level-up parties or merit parties. It really depends on the content, BCNM, and such.
* Skillchains and are pretty old-fashioned, I’d say. Personally, I’d like to see have meaning once again.
* If there’s a Black Mage in the , I will make it so they can . It helps the party work together as a machine.
* It’s used on certain enemies. For example, on a powerful or some s. In general, level-up parties don’t utilize them.
* Only in special situations, or certain s or s, or BLM-only / SMN-only level-up parties. In general, it’s not used. Most parties just ad-lib skillchains as they go along rather than set them up.
* There are times when people off of people who just Skillchain on the fly. Besides that, they are barely used.
* Even in Japan, Skillchain and parties have gone out of style. I’d say 95% of parties don’t decide on a Skillchain before starting. The other 5% are low-level parties using .
* There are times when they are used depending on level and the enemy, but it’s nothing like the old days. Thinking back, people used to use them all the time. There’s a fair amount of people who miss that era.
* Outside of parties with friends, I barely ever use them. Nobody really prepares Skillchains. Personally, I miss the days when people would Skillchain and .
* This is just me talking, but I absolutely love . I think after Aht Urghan, burn parties became all the rage, and FFXI became pretty boring.
* Nostalgic people still want to do them. I think they’re fun to set up. lol
* I think people who use Skillchains and make good parties. It’s fun! I make burn parties too.
* I think most people just ad-lib Skillchains and now. If there’s a SAM or DRK people do them sometimes. I was in a party as WHM the other day, and I got to Holy off Light Skillchains. That made me really happy. lol
* I was feeling nostalgic, and since I was leader, I had my party set up a Skillchain and . Everyone was pretty pleased with the results. Still, this way of thinking is almost tantamount to heresy nowadays.
* Getting the timing down for Skillchains and just isn’t worth it anymore. That, and there are so many BLM parties.
This pretty much mirrors how we feel. Skillchains and Magic Bursts just aren’t efficient enough to bother with, but somewhere, deep down, we wish they were. I mean, how cool is it to set up a chain of special attacks that culminates in a bonus effect that opens the door for an assault of magic? Of course, doing it 50 thousand times as you grind off crabs sort of dulls that effect.
Still, it was a unique part of Final Fantasy XI, and added to the party dynamic. Now, the most efficient way to party is to just deck yourself off and beat the holy hell out of the enemy until the pixels physically crumble from the punishment. It feels like the Final Fantasy series has always suffered from this issue. I can’t remember a single one where you couldn’t just barrel through enemies with beefy bruisers, forgoing MP management and the hassle of spells. I always conserved magic for boss fights, and it sounds like that’s the general plan in FFXI as well.
Do you wear certain earrings or rings in certain slots? For example, Suppanomimi on ear 1, CoP ring on ring 2.
* I don’t really understand this question, but if you’re talking about rare and powerful equipment, all I can say is that it’s up to the individual where they want to put it.
* Lots of people are concerned with what equipment they have, but I don’t think anyone cares where they wear it.
* I pay no attention to that.
* I don’t think there’s really anyone who pays attention to what slot they use. I know I don’t.
* Choosing which earrings or rings to wear is important, with the limited number of slots. Choosing which slot to put them in is something I don’t think about.
* My equipment depends on my level and goals. I have battle gear and town gear.
* So I guess this question is asking if we are concerned about which of the two slots we put equipment in? I put mission rewards in the left slot (I guess that’s ?).
* I don’t know the point of this question, but I’m sure there are some who think about this stuff, but really it’s up to them where they want to put it.
* I don’t.
* I make sure to keep the slot consistent throughout my gear-swap macros, but I don’t pick either slot in particular.
* I basically just fill in every slot when I equip myself. I don’t have any special order.
* There doesn’t seem to be any reason to do that. Still, if the question includes other items with special meaning, I do have a cherished Longsword +1. It’s my favorite sword that I’ve had for years, and I keep it equipped on my mannequin.
* I think the majority of players don’t pay attention to this, but I totally do. Specifically, this is what I always put on: Ear1: Antivenom Earring, Abyssal Earring, Singing Earring, Fowling Earring; Ear2: Assault Earring, Moldavite Earring, Wind Earring; Ring1: Moliones’s Ring, Jelly Ring; Ring2: Woodsman Ring, Triumph Ring.
* Equipment keeps changing as you level, so I think a lot of people don’t really notice these things. But, if people stopped to think about it, they might be like, “Hey, why did I put this ring on the left and this earring on the right?”
* I don’t think about it.
* I’ve never thought about this. Since this was chosen as one of 10 questions, are you saying this is something of great importance to players? If Japanese players were asking foreigners questions, this would absolutely not be one of them.
* Hmm, sounds like the kind of thing you do with an engagement ring. In that case, I don’t think anyone really pays attention to this. People just put on what is necessary for their level.
* I don’t think about it.
* No.
* I do. Why do you ask?
* In town I often wear equipment my friend has inscribed, but I don’t put it in any particular slot.
* In my case, I do put earrings in certain slots depending on the job for my macros. But there probably aren’t many people who do this.
* Sometimes things I usually put in the right slot just looks weird in the left slot. Still, I never really took the time to choose one or the other from the beginning.
* I don’t have a special order. I just make sure all my macros keep things in the same slots. ^_^;
I kind of expected this, but Japanese take these joke questions pretty seriously. Being the first time we’ve done this though, it seems natural it would come across that way. It was nice to see a bunch of people caught on though, especially that one OCD case.
Additional Comments
For a first go at this, I think it went pretty well. Despite some of the negative sentiment, there was a very positive reaction for the experiment itself. Plus, the variety of opinions shows we are getting the full deal, and not just some sugar-coated answers from a small group of people. It’s strange how annoyed they can appear to be, yet be so eager to bridge the gap at the same time. Besides the obvious grouches, most posters were very receptive and eager to participate. I only wish I had the time to include more answers.
Here is some extra material that wasn’t part of any particular answer. Some people requested that these thought were added, and they are just general concerns or after-thoughts various posters had.
* Melees, please come to merit parties as sub-NIN, not sub-SAM. This is something I really want to understand. It makes me feel bad for healers. Using sub-NIN will make you super efficient. Your death-rate will go way down. Using Utsusemi will save your healers a lot of . Japanese don’t see as something that should be sacrificed to make you stronger.
* Many Japanese are poor at English conversation not because they can’t make sentences, but because they don’t know what to say to express themselves. If someone badmouths them in a party, they know they have no way to respond. Then they just get more frustrated, and start to dislike foreign players altogether.
* , most Japanese people know English to understand basic chat, and they can tell when people are badmouthing them or using sexual language, so people should really stop that. lol Many people just don’t have enough confidence in their spelling or grammar to say anything.
* This is my opinion on : First, many players are foul-mouthed and often selfish and sarcastic (). However, there are good people that don’t bully others. After players joined the game, activity really took off, I think. Things like using other people’s accounts, having and ing are basically a given, and I think it shows a lack of morals. As for as a , I think they are too concerned with having their character names in their , whereas will always post . If you display names, it just degenerates into personal attacks.
* The day service began for foreigners, Sarutabaruta was just littered with corpses. I would throw a Cure and say something nice, like, “You can do it!” and they would respond with foul language like or or and such. After that, I just stopped giving out Cures and sort of avoided foreigners. I always wanted to know why North American players would act it such a way. Honestly, people who study a little Japanese to speak with us are the most popular.
After collecting a lot of answers, I did step up to the plate to defend us foreigners. While some of the questions invited negativity, I thought they were being somewhat unfair. It is the Internet, and anonymous no less, so you can’t really judge how even the rudest of respondents carry themselves in-game.
I explained to them that a lot of concerns they had were ones we hold ourselves. Nobody likes people that camp on top of other parties. Stealing, drama and personal feuds are a constant problem. Still, there’s a lot of adventurers that play the game, have fun, and don’t bother other people, and it’s those adventurers that genuinely want to know more about those they share their game with.
I think past the bad experiences, and apparently poor handling of integration, Japanese people feel the same way. I mean, everyone would rather reach an understanding with their fellow players rather than be constantly at odds with them, right? Well, here are some more comments they made afterwards.
* I don’t hate , there are lots of interesting people among them. I just hate English.
* Japanese people don’t just hate players, they dislike players with poor manners. Also, Japanese people hate when people throw around the word JAP, even if it’s not used maliciously.
* Thanks for your hard work. I’m on a server with a high population of foreigners. I’m not that good, but I like to translate in mixed parties of English or French players. I really hope this survey fosters some understand between good foreign players and Japanese. I think there are many cases where we really do dislike the same kinds of inappropriate conduct. For example, I hate when people just up and call a replacement for themselves without saying anything. They don’t consider the time difference, and that maybe people want to disband, disappointing the replacement. Also, sometimes they’ll do stuff like a WHM will call a RNG for their replacement. Since we can’t split up the servers now, I think the best thing to do is reach understanding one voice at a time. I really respect what the OP is doing here. Don’t wear yourself out.
* I don’t hate all foreigners. I think lots of people just suck at English and refuse to respond. Next time, I’d like to know what courtesy we could extend to to make them happy.
* I think this is an interesting experiment, so keep up the good work. If you can, I want to know their reaction.
So if you call them on their prejudice, Japanese will be nice. No, wait… we’re all good people on the inside. Yeah, that’s a better lesson. Seriously though, there were lots of other little, tiny comments like “Ooh, sounds fun!” or “I want to try this!” and so on. There literally wasn’t a single post in opposition of this, which says something, I guess.
I had a lot of fun doing this, and translating all these opinions was just loads of fun, not to mention enlightening, due to their content. I would love the chance to try this again with different questions and different communities. I hope you enjoyed reading this, and that you learned something new in the process. Feel free to post any questions/comments here or send me a mail at elmer@jpbutton.com
Thanks to everyone who submitted questions and supported me during this trial run!
Edit: I actually just noticed this post after completed this entire thread. It was put up only minutes before I wrapped up work on the survey. Sometimes I read it and get confused, but sometimes I read it and feel it exemplifies what this survey has tried to accomplish. This poster did his best to express his opinion in both Japanese and English, and it was one that tried to objectively view both sides of the issue, and logically explain why some of these problems between us exist.
I’ll post the comment here in its entirety. This was not translated by me, but is the poster’s own words.
これは、私の考えだけど…
日本人は、自分がガマンしてでも、集団からはみださないようにする。
他人にイヤな思いをさせないことを、すごく大事にする。
だから…楽しむのがすごくへた。自己主張がとてもへた。
そして、集団の利益を無視する人がきらい。
one for allが大好きだけど、all for one(me)がきらい。
NAは自己主張が上手。
たぶん、NAは「イヤならことわればいい」と思ってJPに色々言うんだろう。
でもほとんどのJPにとって「イヤだ」という理由で「ことわる」のは
自分勝手なことに思えて、特別に理由が無いと、ことわりにくい。
だから、NAに話かけられると、それだけでイヤな人が多いんだ。
「何をたのまれるんだろう」って不安だから。
This is just my opinion…
Most of Japanese adapt themselves to mass, even if they are not happy to do so,
and consider it as a virtue.
It is really important for them not to make somebody unpleasant.
So… Japanese are easy to miss to make themselves happy.
They have very poor means for self-assertiveness.
And, they hate who doesn’t adopt oneself to mass.
Japanese loves “One for all” but hates “All for one(me)”
Most of NAs are very self-assertive.
May be, they think JP are also self-assertive same as them,
and may believe JP can say “No” if they don’t want.
But most of Japanese feels it is an offense to say “No” without specific(physical) reason.
They feel it is selfish behavior to say “I don’t like to do it”.
It is one of the reason that they are stressed when they got tell from NA.
They worry to be demanded.
上手い英語じゃないかもだけど、まあ気持ちが伝われば…。ハハハ…。
I really like the worldwide servers and think SE did a pretty impressive job with the translator. (Unlike some piece-of-shit games that make it difficult to play with Denmark's sexiest Hunter. I mean FFS Blizzard get it together)
Last week I got a Japanese WAR/NIN to come duo with my Beastmaster in Western Altepa Desert. Just some deadly internet dragon killers chillaxin online killing some spiders eatin some kebabs and getting fat exp. Good times. Until I get us killed because I'm a careless North American. Charm doesn't last very long on some tough mobs. Live and learn. hahahaha
Tomorrow I'm going to hit level 50 on White Mage and to get your level cap up higher you have to do a quest every 5 levels and now every time I think about it or look up info on the quests I think about that bizzare shit from the FAR EAST Creepy Uncle posted.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Genkai
THANK YOU CREEPY! 
And if I haven't given you folks enough reasons to talk shit about me: I've listened to almost every episode of this show http://www.limitbreakradio.com/
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Originally posted by SocialParasite
How can you stand to play that abomination of a game?
Pretty big story in the gaming media over the weekend about this abomination of a game I play.
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News has spread of a grueling new enemy encounter in Final Fantasy XI. The Notorious Monster (NM) Pandemonium Warden is one of the strongest opponents players can face in the game. But it seems Square-Enix may have raised the bar too high, given the extremes to which players must go to defeat Pandemonium Warden.
A linkshell (guild) called Beyond the Limitation recently faced off against Pandemonium Warden over an 18 hour period, but the NM was still going strong. The NM shapeshifts into multiple forms, making it even more of a challenge to defeat; Beyond the Limitations fought Pandemonium Warden through twenty of his possible forms, some of which took hours to kill. Pet Food Alpha, a Final Fantasy XI community site, quotes a member of Beyond the Limitation stating: "People were passing out and getting physically ill. We decided to end it before we risked turning into a horrible new story about how video games ruin people's lives."
There is the argument that the particular endgame encounter is geared towards the most hardcore linkshells in FFXI, but it stands to reason that a linkshell powerful and knowledgeable enough to reach that point would take on Pandemonium Warden with optimal efficiency. A member of Beyond the Limitation, going by the name Rukenshin, has posted a definitive account of the event and specifically addresses the publicity drawn to their encounter, which is well worth a read.
What's your take on this? How long should it take for your guild or linkshell to collectively bring down a single enemy in Final Fantasy XI, or any MMO for that matter?
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From http://www.massively.com/2008/08/16...nal-fantasy-xi/
Now I bet some you can get all up in here posting "Man that ain't shit, back in the day on EQ we used to...etc." And that's cool. Go for gold.
And here's a comment from that story...
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Bill said...
The FFXI dev team has always been sadistic and hated the players. They refuse to answer the most basic questions about how anything works, and when they do let some hint slip out, it's so cryptic nobody understands it. Their interviews with Japanese media are long and in-depth, while their interviews with North American media are full of "I don't know" and "Figure that out for yourself". When you can't play 80 hours per week, it's hard to figure out moon phase effects or many other things that they outright refuse to explain or discuss.
The support system is built around annoying players. The GMs tell you to call the support center for help, the support center tells you to send email, and if the email actually gets read, the reply is either "the game is working as intended" or that you need to call or talk to a GM, starting the whole process over again. You might get really lucky and they'll tell you to speak to a supervisor, but there has never been one available. Just one more cockblock time sink from Square-Enix, it's just like playing ffxi.
After you spend 18-24 hours trying to kill this boss the chances of it dropping anything useful or wanted is .00001%. You're more likely to get a useless crystal or nothing at all. You'll need to fight this 30 or more times to get the item you want. Making the total time to fight warden to get anything at least 540 hours, not including time to farm the pop requirements.
The only reason people still care about old content is that the items from that content hardly ever drop. You could be doing the same raids for years and not see anything you could use. People think warden or AV are horrible because they take 18 hours. The cumulative time wasted on any single raid event (sky, dynamis, salvage, Einjerhar, etc) with players getting nothing out of it makes warden look easy.
FFXI isn't for the hard core, it's for the brain damaged. You can't attempt mobs like warden unless you find 18 or more of the best players with the best gear. Any single one of them sneezes or needs a 5 minute break and weeks of work getting the pop items is ruined. The casual player that doesn't have the ability to glue themselves in front of their computer for 8 hours every day or find 18 of the best players to hang out with, has little chance to see warden let alone fight him. I guess this is what casual player means to Square-Enix, because they said the Zeni NM system was for the casual player. Just like they said ToAU would have mid level and solo content.
Even if you want to grind xp, you're forced to deal with 200 players that are "JP PARTY ONLY". leaving you with 8 other NA or EU players to xp with, and their jobs don't work well with yours, making xp next to impossible. Those 300 players only exist on one overcrowded server. Other servers have 12 "JP PARTY ONLY" looking for exp, and no other NA or EU players.
The dev team forces users to bend over, without any lube, because it makes them feel better about designing a horribly sadistic and mind numbing grind of a game.
It's not going to improve. Square-Enix does not care about the players or their opinions, they've had 4+ years to do anything and all we got were more sadistic nms, low drop rates, and interviews with SageSundi saying "I don't know". The global producer for the game doesn't even know how things work. I bet Sundi doesn't even know what warden is. The only answer they'll give about warden will be "We'll investigate the issue".
There are better games out there, that aren't designed by sadists.
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The only thing I disagree with really is that it's hard to find players on your server to do stuff with. It really isn't.
Here's me and a couple of my best friends from the real world hanging out in the fantasy world having nerd boners over our new hats we got from using a gold world pass.
More to come.
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